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4Pillars
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Message 76 of 83 (371955)
12-24-2006 9:06 AM


Genesis - Another Scientific Theory
Stars and Planets as we know today, didn't just appear just like that at their current position, otherwise, everything will not be in motion, just a stand still. As observed, everything is moving, everything is pulling and everything is in motion.
By looking at the spiral generated by stirring up hot coffee with milk, we can see that when the milk spiral is small, it turns faster, and when the milk spiral gets bigger, it gets slower and slower and the spiral spreads out to the brim and scatters. By applying this effect to our Solar system, we get a similar effect, but planets have masses, magnetic fields, and centripetal forces.
Simulation:
By setting up a model below, we can make an observation. The model is made up of ball magnets of different sizes and strengths to represent the planets and the Sun, being the strongest magnet. They are placed in a circular case and with dividers acting as orbits. The air is then pumped out. When it is spun, centripetal forces takes effect. It is observed that the stronger magnets tends to pull other lesser strength magnets and slows them down. When the spin slows down, all attracts each other and makes a straight line. Furthermore, it is observed that the magnets vibrates upon making a straight line. Applying this model to our solar system, by this time, as shown by the milk spiral, the time that the balls go slower, the spiral gets bigger and further from the center. Looking at our Solar system, the planets will move away from the Sun and there will be a full occultation of the planets made by the straight line. Jupiter will cover all the outer planets, Mars will cover Jupiter and on the other side, a solar eclipse and the moon will cover Venus and Venus will cover Mercury. Everything at this point will be in total darkness.
This we see, is the end of our Solar System. If there is an end, there is a beginning. As explained, there is a super dense core at the beginning of our universe. It spirally exploded and the stars and the planets was born. As explained by Genesis, there were 6 days of creation. God rested on the 7th day. Intial stages of creation were extremely explosive, as written:
Genesis 1&2
First God made heaven & earth 2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the Spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters.
God first created the materials. Solid, Gas and Liquid.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
By the interaction of their atoms including plasma, these 4 matters was fused together and this is the time the superdense core exploded and there was light. More like Nuclear fusion. Remember, this superdense core was extremely massive, therefore has extreme gravity force, many times stronger than the black hole. With this force, explosion can never go straight but follows a spiral elliptical path. And, the Polarize Vacuum charge at this moment will be at 0.00000000000000000001 or even less. Light at this time could have been travelling at a much faster pace because it needs to escape the immense gravity at the core. It could be traveling at a million times more than today.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
At this stage, the Earth is beginning to form and spin as it collected solid debris from the explosion. As it formed and grew in mass, earth gravity was born. At this stage day and night appeared. But, the Earth was still formless, not spherical in shape as we know today. It will look like a half eaten apple.
6 And God said, "Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters." 7 And God made the firmament and separated the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament. And it was so. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day. (1st. universe - the world of Adam)
As the formless Earth spun like an asteroid, it collected gases and extreme pressure was created. So much so that the gases turned into liquid and water was formed. Lower pressure gas, our atmoshpere at different altitudes and higher pressure turned water, our seas, at different depths. Just the right balance.
9 And God said, "Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear." And it was so. 10 God called the dry land Earth, and the waters that were gathered together he called Seas.
At this this time as the formless Earth Spun, it started to have a spherical shape and the land mass began to move and stretch due to the massive centripetal force acting on the Earth. And dry land appeared and water was called the seas.
These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth (our present earth) and the heavens (PLURAL - included the 3rd heaven), And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
At the later stages, living things started to be created, at this time, the forces were subsiding slowly.
But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
11 And God said, "Let the earth put forth vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind, upon the earth." And it was so.
First man, then plants and trees, then the sea creatures, then the land animals. Each stages of creation corresponds to the survivability of each living thing, and thus the land animals were created at the last stages.
12 The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed according to their own kinds, and trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening and there was morning, a third day.
This is the 3rd day of creation.
15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the GARDEN of Eden (1st heaven Gen. 1:6-8 the world of Adam) to dress it and to keep it. 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the GARDEN thou mayest freely eat
14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to separate the day from the night; and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light upon the earth." And it was so. 16 And God made the two great lights, the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night; he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light upon the earth, 18 to rule over the day and over the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening and there was morning, a fourth day. (our universe)
Now, at this time, matters that was sprung forth during the explosion, finally reached it's final position in the universe and formed mini explosions by their own. Light from the stars and galaxies has reached planet Earth on the fourth day. Now, we can conclude light was traveling much much faster at it's primal stage.
To have all of these, extreme forces are needed. At this stage, the Earth could be orbitting the Sun at extreme velocity as it was still in the initial stage of the explosion. No living thing could survive yet.
With regards to time, at the initial stages, the Earth could have been orbiting the Sun at a mind blowing pace. It could be 1 sec per revolution as compared to todays, 365days per revolution. The Earth could be spinning 1 hour per thousands of revolution around the sun, making the Earth day longer than the Earth year several times over. This link will explain this further:
Quote:
Each sidereal day on Mercury takes 58.65 Earth days; it takes Mercury 58.65 days (2/3's of its year) to rotate around its axis once. One day on Mercury seems to last two Mercurian years (or 176 Earth days), i.e., sunrise to sunrise. It is daytime for one Mercurian year, and nighttime for one Mercurian year.
Length of a Day and Year on Mercury - Enchanted Learning
If I was present at that time, I could be around a couple of billion years old if measured according to our current year length. The problem with our time measurement today is that, we measure it by the Earth's orbit around the Sun and the current Earth speed. One has to ponder, did it really stayed constant? Was it really at a constant 365 days length?
What if there's no Sun and no light? How are we able to measure time or even perceive it? Even if we have a carbon dating machine, it only measures half-life, Half life in terms of what unit of time? Let's put it in reverse, what if there's only light but no darkness and no Sun? It's still the same. We still need a point of origin of orbit to measure time. So, you see the predicament and with that the concept of eternity.
Going back to the planet occultation:
It is written:
Bible
Isaiah 13:10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.
Joel 2:10 The Earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
The Bible says that the planets (stars of heaven) and constellations shall withdraw their shining and shall not give their light. The only way that this could happen is through total occultation of the planets and the constellations. Very little information is known today how gravity, magnetic forces, and other forces plays together to give an “optimum” effect of energies directed to a planet or planets to cause climate changes, core temperature, atmosphere, precessions, orbits, spins, magnetic fields, tectonic plates, and etc. As written, the Earth shall quake and the heavens shall tremble.
There were other alignments recorded but with no adverse effects. One thing we can take note of, past alignments did not record any full occultation of the planets.
Planetary Alignment of 5 May 2000
http://archives.cnn.com/...H/space/05/02/planetary.alignment
http://wwp.greenwichstar.com/calendar/planets.htm
Still, very little is known in Science how forces interact with each other when planets occult. As shown by the demonstration, when planets slow down, occultation is inevitable. We just don’t know when and how little changes can affect, but there are clues we can note of, like orbits and spins slowing down, aphelion distance, precessions, longer days, temperature, climate changes, tectonics, and pseudo alignments. Planet alignments should not be mistaken as Planet occultation as we can still see them aligned, even at total solar eclipse or lunar eclipse, and thus “pseudo alignment” or “False”. Total occultation only occurs when we no longer see the planets, the moon, the Sun and the constellations as well, this is a “True” alignment. As written, “for the stars and constellation shall withdraw their shining”. At this time, the universe has reached it's peak energy and will start to collapse and reverse the spiral until it is one densed core again. Scientist call this theory, "The Big Crunch". The universe is like one big rubber band. Once the stretch has reached it's peak, it falls back again to it's origin, more like bungee jumping. Initial stages, you start to fall fast, but later when you stretch the cord, you go slower and slower until you stop, and then you go in reverse. That's simply how it works.
Studying closely, if the Earth has 6 planes of forces acting on it, and B,C,D,E,F = 0? What if only 1 plane is working?
If 5 planes = 0, and only one plane is working, we get this configuration:
In this configuration, we get a tug of war situation. Still, there’s not enough information on how planets interact at full occultation. However, the Bible tells us something very alarming:
It is written:
Bible
Revelation 6:14 the sky vanished like a scroll that is rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from it’s place.
Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heaven will be shaken;
Luke 21:26 men fainting with fear and with foreboding of what is coming on the world; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
At this particular event, our atmosphere will vanish like a scroll. Without an atmosphere the blue sky will start to look dark, even at daytime, clouds will dissipate, air pressure will be lowered, oxygen level will fall, extreme temperatures (heat and cold) will take effect, life on the planet will be scouring for survival. We are seeing here a powerful earthquake and volcanic activity as every mountain and island was removed from its place. The planets (stars) will fall from heaven. At Earth’s perspective, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune, Uranus, and Pluto will seem to look bigger and bigger, as if falling towards Earth. The moon will get closer and closer to Earth for a collision course and the surface of the moon will bulge out and pull off and will shoot towards Earth forming hail. Solar Flares from the Sun will go berserk and shoot towards the planets and disrupt electrical power and radio waves from Earth.
Radioactivity and heat will scorch the whole Planet as there will be magnetic disturbances making the Earth exposed to the sun's radiation. Total planet black out will be experienced. You will witness extreme activity of the Northern lights called the Aurora Borrealis, our sky will be covered with strange colorful lights.
http://ksnn.larc.nasa.gov/webtext.cfm?unit=northernlights
A MEETING WITH THE UNIVERSE
In a real time scenario, people will not notice it as this will not take place immediately, it needs time before it peaks as distances between planets are in the hundreds of millions of kilometers, it may take several days or more. As written, men fainting with fear and with foreboding of what is coming on the world. But, when it peaks, no human or any other living thing will survive. It is a mass extinction of the whole planet Earth as well as the total destruction of the Solar System. If this full occultation is allowed to continue, the biggest planet Jupiter will pull everything, disintegrate and strip all the planets to the core as it pulls the planets towards it and all that is left is Jupiter and the Sun. Jupiter will slowly go towards the Sun, but the orbit will go faster and faster as it goes nearer towards the Sun, and during this time, both bodies will be exchanging elements until it is one whole big lump of energy. Just like the coffee spiral experiment, only this time it is in reverse and the spin goes faster as it moves towards the center. It is not known what will happen to the Sun, either it will collapse on it’s own accumulated mass or explodes. And, another new creation will form. New heavens and new Earth.
Who will stop this mass extinction? Who is able and powerful enough to stop this total annihilation of the whole solar system?
It is written:
Bible
Matthew 24:22 - And if those days had not been shortened, no human being would be saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.
Mark 13:20 - And if the Lord had not shortened the days, no human being would be saved; but for the sake of the elect, whom he chose, he shortened the days.
But, we have this good news:
After 1,000years is finished, another new beginning will form. It looks like God slowed the destruction for 1,000 years.
It is written:
Revelation 20:6 - Blessed and holy is he who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and they shall reign with him a thousand years.
2 Peter 3:12 - Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
We can guess, the "Big Crunch" theory is possibly true. At the core, all the elements will melt with fervent heat. And then.....booom!!!! As written, we look for new heavens and a new Earth.
2 Peter 3:13 - Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
2 Peter 3:10 - But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Revelation 21:1 - And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. (3rd heaven)
Yahoo!!
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Message 77 of 83 (371956)
12-24-2006 9:12 AM
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12-23-2006 9:13 PM


'BTW, let's have some stars... '
Jar:
Very likely. But there could be other interpretations. For example there may have been political reasons for including them, or decisions made over the positions of the individual members of the committees.
Another factor in this is cultural context. It's a very modern skew on things to look at Genesis and assess its merit based on what kind of scientific knowledge it shows or doesn't show.
At the time these narratives were formed, then later compiled, the automatic system of measure would be how much like other myths the story is and isn't.
You will find other Mesopotamian Creation stories that contain a Tree of Life, a talking serpent, four rivers flowing in each direction from a central spring, peaceful animals, and an original man and woman residing in a Paradise garden wearing only their birthday suits. These images were the coin of the realm in Mesopotamia anytime you wanted to describe origins.
The big difference in Genesis lay not in creating some new form of literature--sicence or historical narrative--that had so far never been brought to the task. On the contrary: Genesis tells the same kind of tales, using the stock symbols. The difference lay in the way the materials were put together. The Genesis stories reflect a very different understanding of deity, materials and mortals.
The people of ancient Sumer, Akkad and Babylon revered the stars. Mesopotamian culture placed a high priority--the highest--on tracking the movements of planets, sun, moon, and other heavenly bodies. Each celestial object was regarded as a kind of deity.
In this context it catches attention when someone tells a story that uses many of the expected elements but disrupts the pattern at crucial places. The Deity doesn't create the celestial objects until when? And they don't possess personalities? They're just objects--hung up like lamps to serve some utilitarian purpose?
The whole point of the detail is to put Babylonion astrology in its place. God just says 'Oh, by the way, let's improve the light here at the workbench.' And the kicker: 'He made the stars also.' Like a footnote!
The storyteller completely disses the highest powers recognized at the time. Today's readers just blow right past this. We're too busy trying to assess the narratives according to our received paradigm. But in those days no one would have missed the point. The original storytellers and their audience were operating in the realm of their received paradigms. It is in that context that the stories take their meaning.
As science, all the ancient stories are mush. So what? No one was trying trying to write science.
The storytellers endeavored to understand our place and purpose in the universe. They used the best materials available to them--observation, combined with the received methods and wisdom of the time--and made revisions as they thought necessary to improve the accuracy of the picture.
All in all, a method not entirely foreign to science.
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Archer
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4Pillars
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Message 78 of 83 (371960)
12-24-2006 9:40 AM
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12-24-2006 9:06 AM


Re: Genesis - Another Scientific Theory
Now, was the Earth before revolving around the Sun at a constant rate of 365 days / year? If that's the case then, all the planets and galaxies just appeared at their precise position for eons since the beginning. Common sense tells us, that's wrong, because how can that be? It violates the mechanics of an explosion.
Looking at the Big Bang theory, in the beginning, every matter was compressed into an extremely densed core. When it exploded, matter didn't just exploded in a linear path, it exploded in a spiral elliptical path because of the immense gravity at the core.
Now, looking at that model, how fast you think Earth was revolving around the Sun at the primal stage of it's creation? We have to consider the explosive force in action at that primal stage. What do you think? The normal 365 days per revolution or 88 days per revolution or 1 day per revolution around the Sun?
Let say we take 1day per revolution:
1 Earth year today = 365days
At the primal stage, it takes Earth 1 day to revolve around the Sun = 1 day / year.
If a man 20 years old were to be born at that stage, he will be 7300 years old!
What if at that primal stage, the earth could be revolving around 10x faster than that. Therefore, a man 20 years old were to be born at that stage, he will be 73,000 years old! 10x faster than that, 730,000, and 10x more, 7,300,000 and 10x more, 73000000, 10x more 73000000 years old!!! 10x more, 73000000000!!!
Now, we don't know how powerful the gravity and explosion was, measuring at 6 billion years, the earth could have been spinning around the sun at a mind boggling pace! Very powerful explosion. Remember, not only the Earth was created, but the whole universe!
But, today why do we measure time in terms of Earth year length of 365days/year? Did we ever consider that before, the Earth could be revolving around the Sun and spinning at a much faster rate? Did we consider that error?
Today, when we say, The Earth is 6 billion years old. What we should be saying is, The Earth is 6 billion years old relative to the Earth's revolution to the Sun at an axis spin rate of 24hrs/day completing 365days per revolution around the Sun which is equivalent to 1 year.
What if Earth were to slow down 10x? We will be saying:
Today, when we say, The Earth is 60 billion years old. What we should be saying is, The Earth is 60 billion years old relative to the Earth's revolution to the Sun at an axis spin rate of 240hrs/day completing 3650days per revolution around the Sun which is equivalent to 1 year.
So a man 20 years old, will only be 2 years old relative to that speed. Biologically, nothing has changed only the unit of time. So, if we measure the Earth relative to mercury, the earth is younger and relative to Pluto, the Earth is older.
After the 6th day, the Earth's revolution around the Sun and the axis spin rate of the Earth gradually subsided until it coincides to our 365days year length and 24 hours/day , 60secs/min time units.
Think of it as a wound up spring toy. At the start, the wound up spring has a lot of energy, therefore the toy moves faster, and when the the wound up spring loses energy, the toy moves at a slower rate. Measuring that, let say, the toy covers 10cm. At the start, the wound up toy travels that distance within 10seconds. At the last phase when the spring loses it's energy, it covers that distance at a slow rate of 60seconds.
That's how it is with our universe. In the beginning, the energy released was phenomenal, but at the later stages, it looses it's energy, and the spin rate will decrease even more.
Now, the question is, is our universe slowing down? If it is, gravity will start pulling all the planets together, all the stars together, all the galaxies together, all matters together, until it is all one big lump of energy. And then it explodes again. Another life cycle of our universe. Now, think of this a man with roller blades going uphill. At the start he has a lot of energy, but after sometime when he is almost up the hill, he loses his energy and starts to roll backwards, free falling. But at that, he gains energy until he reaches the start. He starts rolling up again. For every action there is an opposite but equal reaction. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. An object in motion will stay in motion.
Go figure it out. (Source - Sharp)
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Message 79 of 83 (371962)
12-24-2006 9:49 AM
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12-24-2006 9:40 AM


Re: Genesis - Another Scientific Theory
And, regarding the age of our universe, we say it's at least around 13.5 billion years.
Things we should consider before measuring the true age:
1. Light can never be a constant because it slows down in a medium and strong gravity. Before it reaches Earth, light will still travel through the atmosphere, through your window, and through your retina and slows down even more. I'm not saying that light didn't reach its max velocity, I'm saying that you get only an "average" speed.
2. What if the light speed is only, 1m/s. How old will the universe be?
3. The index of a vacuum is 1. Using PV (Polarized Vacuum), this value is determined by the charge density of the vacuum. Changes in density can be equated to changes in the curvature of space time. What if the region of space was less than 1 charge, resulting in the speed of light being much faster than ever thought possible?
4. What if it takes only 1 minute for light to travel 10 billion light years? How old will the universe be?
5. And, what if the index of vacuum equals 0, resulting in the speed of light as infinite? So, indeed, omnipresense doesn't sound that ridiculous.(Source-Sharp)
It is written:
2 Peter 3:8 - But do not ignore this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
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Message 80 of 83 (371963)
12-24-2006 9:51 AM
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Re: Genesis - Another Scientific Theory
A light-year is a unit of distance It is the distance that light can travel in one year. Light moves at a velocity of about 300,000 kilometers (km) each second. So in one year, it can travel about 10 trillion km. More precisely, one light-year is equal to 9,500,000,000,000 kilometers.
By that, we can measure the age of our universe, more or less.
http://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/.../questions/question19.html
A light year is measured relative to our Earth year, which is 365 days units. Our universe is at least 13.5 billion years old. How many days in one year? Relative to what planet and to what galaxy?
Here's another predicament. What if there is no light? Can you measure time?
Light travels differently on different mediums. 100% speed of light can only apply in a vacuum. Note I use 100%, not in terms of m/s.
Quote:
Although the speed of light in a vacuum is constant, light slows down when travelling through a medium. This doesn't make much difference when it is travelling through air, but it does make a difference in many other media. For example, light going through glass slows down to two-thirds its speed in a vacuum.
http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=554
Before using light as a means of measuring time unit, one needs to ponder whether they are other particles that can travel faster than light. For example, the tachyons.
Quote:
Tachyons are a putative class of particles which able to travel faster than the speed of light. Tachyons were first proposed by physicist Arnold Sommerfeld, and named by Gerald Feinberg. The word tachyon derives from the Greek (tachus), meaning "speedy." Tachyons have the strange properties that, when they lose energy, they gain speed. Consequently, when tachyons gain energy, they slow down. The slowest speed possible for tachyons is the speed of light.
Tachyon -- from Eric Weisstein's World of Physics
However,
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Tachyons appear to violate causality (the so-called causality problem), since they could be sent to the past under the assumption that the principle of special relativity is a true law of nature, thus generating a real unavoidable time paradox (Maiorino and Rodrigues 1999). Therefore, it seems unavoidable that if tachyons exist, the principle of special relativity must be false, and there exists a unique time order for all observers in the universe independent of their state of motion.
Things will get really vague at this point. Which time unit do we follow? The tachyons, or the photons? We'll just be better off measuring time relative to our solar system for now. Otherwise, E=mc2 will become, E=mt2. So far so good for Einstein.
I theorize that there could be another galaxy who's PV (Polarized Vacuum) is lesser than 1. Our solar system PV is 1. If a biological life form from a galaxy whose PV=<1, then when it travels to our solar system, it observes our solar system to be moving very slow relative to his vacuum of space. To an observer on Earth, his spaceship will appear to be zipping very fast undetectable, even invisible. Now, if a being who's PV=0, then it's infinite. What I call, omnipresent. Everywhere, Anywhere, Anytime, and invisible. We can't detect anything less than 1 of PV.
That's the concept of eternity. (Source-Sharp)
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Message 81 of 83 (371964)
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Re: Genesis - Another Scientific Theory
Now, when we talk about Almighty and All powerful, let's put that into an equation, using Einstein formula, we have:
E=mc2
c = Speed of light = 300,000,000 meters per second, where Polarized Vacuum = 1 (our solar system constant)
m = A Single proton in an atom has a mass of = 0.000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 001 672 kg
Let p = PV
1 Kilogram of water , the mass of extracted pure hydrogen = 0.111kg or 111grams.
So, E=mc2/p
=0.111 x 300,000,000 x 300,000,000 / 1
= 10,000,000,000,000,000 Joules
1 Joule is about the energy when you drop a book to the floor. That's 1 Joule.
The amount of energy 30grams of hydrogen = burning hundreds of thousands
of gallons of gasoline! Covert that to 111grams of Hydrogen in 1 Kg of water. Woooahhh...
Now, if PV=<1, let us take the value of 0.5. E=mc2/0.5
10,000,000,000,000,000 / 0.5 = 20,000,000,000,000,000 JOULES !!!
Now, if PV=0.01, E=mc2/0.01
10,000,000,000,000,000 / 0.01 = 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 JOULES !!!!!
Now, last one, if PV=0.00000000001, E=mc2 / 0.00000000001
10,000,000,000,000,000 / 0.00000000001 = 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 JOULES!!!!!!
So, the lower the charged Polarized vacuum, the higher the energy. The value at that is mind boggling! A being with that kind of power, just the breath or even the presence is enough to destroy the whole universe billion times over!!!
Now, that's ALL POWERFUL! ALL MIGHTY GOD!
By just looking at that number, one will feel so small, insignificant dot of creation. One will feel so humble, so fearful. (Source - Sharp)
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12-24-2006 10:12 AM


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Please reread Message 1.
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Message 83 of 83 (371970)
12-24-2006 10:19 AM
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12-24-2006 9:52 AM


Re: Genesis - Another Scientific Theory
Dear Readers,
It's nice to be back after being put in the penalty box (like in the hockey game). ha ha ha
But seriously, I like to express my sincere apology to those I have offended, especially Ringo. I really did not mean anything that I have said, literally. I was hoping he will back off, study and listen to what I was posting in response to his questions. Well, I got carried away and tick him off, instead. The rest, you know what happened.
Again, my humble apology to everybody.
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