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Author Topic:   The legalization of drugs
riVeRraT
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Message 106 of 111 (363831)
11-14-2006 10:27 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by jar
11-11-2006 9:31 PM


Re: Well, jar's position has not been posted yet.
Just how does this happen? All that anyone needs to do is stop by the neighborhood clinic to get whatever they want.
There is one word that will govern just how much drugs can be handed out, lawsuit.
The government just can't go handing out enough drugs to people, that they really hurt themselves, or kill themselves.
What about the guy who gets into a car crash, and then they ask him where he got the drugs? Just like the liabilty of a bar letting someone go too drunk.

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RickJB
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Posts: 917
From: London, UK
Joined: 04-14-2006


Message 107 of 111 (363851)
11-15-2006 3:19 AM
Reply to: Message 101 by Silent H
11-14-2006 1:24 PM


Re: The drug problem
holmes writes:
I agreed with RJB's plan though I would disagree with his limit on meth, as well as your claim that legalizing any and all drugs would be counterproductive.
I do see your point, but Meth's a funny one. The extent to which a gang economy exists around it is debatable since it can be made cheaply at home by an amateur chemist. It's seriuously dirty stuff and I can't see how anyone could justfy it's sale by the state. I, for one, prefer to see if the availability of other options at a reasoanble price would help to remove the need for anyone to make it.
Edited by RickJB, : No reason given.

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RickJB
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From: London, UK
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Message 108 of 111 (363852)
11-15-2006 3:25 AM
Reply to: Message 106 by riVeRraT
11-14-2006 10:27 PM


Re: Well, jar's position has not been posted yet.
riverrat writes:
What about the guy who gets into a car crash, and then they ask him where he got the drugs? Just like the liabilty of a bar letting someone go too drunk.
It's a fair point, Riverrat. But one must also remeber that the system we have now offers no easy solution to this problem either.
Furthermore, I don't think anyone here would suggest that DUI of any type should be legalised.

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Silent H
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Message 109 of 111 (363854)
11-15-2006 4:30 AM
Reply to: Message 107 by RickJB
11-15-2006 3:19 AM


Re: The drug problem
It's seriuously dirty stuff and I can't see how anyone could justfy it's sale by the state.
Well it's just that availability of the other drugs will not eliminate the addicts who are already on it, as well as people who might want to try it. Keeping it illegal will keep those addicts in a sort of legal/health limbo, or hell.
Many of their lives will be fucked up enough as it is, that it doesn't seem worth the effort to make them even worse.
I suppose it could be legalized in a more limited way. For instance that a person can get it with a prescription from a doctor/clinic. In this way the clients will more or less be limited to addicts and those who really want to try it, and anyone doing so can be assured of less risk from amateur chemists making poison, or burning themselves up while trying to be amateur chemists themselves.
I see these people pretty much everyday, and as depressing as they are, they seem to have lives that they lead according to their own standards, and I cannot justify their removal by the state.
BTW, on your last two replies to me you put in the quote box "nj writes". At first I thought it was an accident but then it happened again and I noticed for everyone else you put their correct name. Is it just an odd coincidence, or do you think I'm NJ?

holmes
"What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away." (D.Bros)

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RickJB
Member (Idle past 5012 days)
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From: London, UK
Joined: 04-14-2006


Message 110 of 111 (363861)
11-15-2006 6:26 AM
Reply to: Message 109 by Silent H
11-15-2006 4:30 AM


Re: The drug problem
HOLMES writes:
do you think I'm NJ?
Hehe. No just a very strange cutting and pasting coincidence!

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CK
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Message 111 of 111 (363864)
11-15-2006 7:27 AM
Reply to: Message 109 by Silent H
11-15-2006 4:30 AM


Re: The drug problem
This is how it used to be done in the uk -
BBC NEWS | Magazine | When heroin was legal

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