Peanut Gallery for Brian and Buz's Exodus debate

I was raised a Baptist but my father and his father(born just after the U.S. Civil War) always admitted there were serious issues with the stories from the "Good Book", but they did not have guts to make the statement out loud. They simply kept quiet and avoided all the crap.I was speaking with a 45-year minister. A good and decent man and I asked him questions (similar to the discussions here) that forced him into complete silence. You know that Deer in the Headlight look.Anything that he would say would have either proved his ignorance of the facts in his Bible that he held in such high regard or either be forced to say "GOD DID IT and that's good enough for me."Reactions such as these are the ONLY reaction possible for those who have taken the vow...to remain ignorant. The debate, as with Buzz, really seems unfair. It's not Buzz, it's that there are no real comebacks aginast such overwhelming logic and contridictions and history. Buzz is trying but he can't compete. Not that he is not smart and articulate but he has no ammo. A noble, yet losing effort.Ron

Juraikken, those measurements/spacings/groupings were just a way to get an idea about the incredible epic spectacle this would have to be.Whether it was metric or feet or leagues or cubits or whatever, the Exodus story is absolute lunacy like all the rest.

There is no other way to describe the only response possible from those defending Biblical stories. They are scared absolutely schitless to consider something is amiss in thier good book.Once they agree something is wrong, the whole thing comes crashing down around them. The dyke is leaking in every joint and they are running out of fingers.Want a reality check? Go to any Christian fundamentalist church. It will scare the crap out of you. You'll reach for a weapon and you won't have one. It would make your day to stand up and say, "What in the hell are you people thinking? Are you brain dead?" Which is a more telling question than you think. They are not thinking. Why not is a mystery to me.

I'm sure that your pastor is a good man, but he has made a career out of avoiding the obvious conclusions one must reach if they were allowed to actually think. And he, and others in his occupation, have been quite successful over the years of convincing others to "have faith and do not think about what I'm telling you". You can talk with him forever but the response will always be "goddidit" because that's the only response possible when he cannot admit there is something incredibly wrong with Biblical versions.Once he comes to grips with facts and fiction, he has to get a real job.Now that would be his ultimate reality check.