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RAZD
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Message 12 of 74 (357953)
10-21-2006 1:17 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by tizzwazz
10-19-2006 2:21 PM


Re: Origin of Life
Welcome to the fray tisswazz.
What Apostle and others fail to recognise ...
That's a pretty big unsubstantiated assertion of a bare assumption. You don't have any way to know what all these people think about the begining of the universe - just because they have not been discussing that.
What you obviously fail to recognize is that they have all been talking about how life started once there was an existing earth, and not about the origin of the universe some 9 to 10 billion years earlier.
The topic is about the evolution of chemicals into life systems, and is specifically taking the existence of chemicals as a given.
Your post doesn't address this issue at all.
Do you have anything to add that is on-topic?
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Message 15 of 74 (358109)
10-22-2006 11:02 AM
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10-22-2006 10:01 AM


Re: Origin of Life
Aha, the usual evolutionists cop out. Pardon me but the above statement is an assumption extraordinaire and thus anything that follows must also be an assumption.
So the existence of this planet is an assumption?
The existence of life on this planet is an assumption?
Are you saying that you cannot do chemical experiments because chemicals are just an assumption?
Do you have a point left?
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Message 18 of 74 (358709)
10-25-2006 7:18 AM
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10-25-2006 5:46 AM


Suspension Predicted
Unless you lose the attitude.

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RAZD
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Message 19 of 74 (358713)
10-25-2006 7:33 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by tizzwazz
10-25-2006 5:43 AM


The topic is chemical evolution
What a silly reply, ...
Then demonstrate that it is silly, don't claim it. You also need to review the guidleines about proper debate.
It pointed out your error in the previous post without making disparaging comments about your level of thinking.
... as you very well know is that NOBODY KNOWS how the earth got here and if you are so clever you tell me.
What we know is based on the evidence of what IS and how we understand HOW it works. The astronomical theories of planet formation are not just shots in the dark.
... of course I am not saying the planet is an assumption ...
You just contradicted yourself. You are now saying that the earth is a fact, yet previously you claimed we couldn't because we didn't know how the chemicals came into being.
But the point is that we don't need to know how something came to be in order to study how it works.
Thus your comment on the origin of the universe is irrelevant to the study of life on earth and how it works, and whether what we know about how it works can be extended back into a study of how it may have started.
The topic is chemical evolution - as we already know that chemicals exist, so we do not need to ponder how they came into being in order to study how chemicals interact in different situations, particularly ones similar to what we know about early earth (from study and evidence) to see if there may be some self organising self-catalizing systems that could develop into life as we know it.
That is what science does: takes evidence, makes a hypothesis to explain the evidence, use the hypothesis to make a prediction, test the prediction for validity, repeat.
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