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Archer Opteryx
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Message 16 of 45 (356634)
10-15-2006 8:13 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by nyenye
10-14-2006 11:18 PM


life is but a dream
Nyeusigrube:
Does that mean everything in this life is fake, or rather, not worth anything?
Your question reminded me of the Buddhist take on it.
Life is a transitory illusion. Suffering comes from wanting too much from it. But this life is not to be despised. Happiness comes through mindfulness. We savor the things life brings us each moment and let go of those things life does not bring but that we often desire.
FYI: Five-Minute Introduction to Buddhism
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Archer
All species are transitional.

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anglagard
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Message 17 of 45 (356635)
10-15-2006 8:14 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by Archer Opteryx
10-15-2006 7:55 AM


Re: Reminds Me of a Similar Perspective
Laurie Anderson!, the next post is predestined. The Talking Heads song Heaven:
quote:
Everyone is trying to get to the bar.
The name of the bar, the bar is called heaven.
The band in heaven plays my favorite song.
They play it once again, they play it all night long.
Heaven is a place where nothing ever happens.
Heaven is a place where nothing ever happens.
There is a party, everyone is there.
Everyone will leave at exactly the same time.
Its hard to imagine that nothing at all
Could be so exciting, and so much fun.
Heaven is a place where nothing ever happens.
Heaven is a place where nothing ever happens.
When this kiss is over it will start again.
It will not be any different, it will be exactly
The same.
Its hard to imagine that nothing at all
Could be so exciting, could be so much fun.
Heaven is a place where nothing every happens.
Heaven is a place where nothing every happens.
It may prove interesting to see who can or can not wrap their minds around such philosophically advanced concepts.

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iano
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From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland.
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Message 18 of 45 (356637)
10-15-2006 8:28 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by anglagard
10-15-2006 8:14 AM


Re: Reminds Me of a Similar Perspective
Everyone is trying to get to the bar.
Or in the case of works-based Religions, jump over it...

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Madfish
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Message 19 of 45 (356697)
10-15-2006 3:00 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Tal
10-15-2006 1:35 AM


Does the bible mention our memories? On the offchance that it's right, I'd like to know if I should expect to remember better times when i'm in hell. =\

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Chiroptera
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Message 20 of 45 (356699)
10-15-2006 3:06 PM
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10-14-2006 7:31 PM


You'll probably gloat.
According to Jesus, there is a balcony in Heaven overlooking Hell where the saved get to point at and mock the roasting sinners.

"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." -- George Bernard Shaw

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iano
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Message 21 of 45 (356703)
10-15-2006 3:19 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by Chiroptera
10-15-2006 3:06 PM


Could you put up the verses in which you sense "gloating", Chirop. Its a long passage you posted there

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Chiroptera
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Message 22 of 45 (356710)
10-15-2006 3:31 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by iano
10-15-2006 3:19 PM


Start at verse 19.
I understand, iano; many people find lengthy Biblical passages boring.

"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." -- George Bernard Shaw

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iano
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Message 23 of 45 (356712)
10-15-2006 3:42 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Chiroptera
10-15-2006 3:31 PM


Re: Start at verse 19.
I'm sure they do. I used to fall asleep with the boredom.
Anyway. "Gloating". Let's get it out there CP. There is nothing EvC likes to feed on more than unsubstantiated assertion.

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Chiroptera
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Message 24 of 45 (356713)
10-15-2006 3:44 PM
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10-15-2006 3:42 PM


Re: Start at verse 19.
If you have to explain a joke, then it probably wasn't funny to begin with.

"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." -- George Bernard Shaw

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iano
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From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland.
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Message 25 of 45 (356714)
10-15-2006 3:50 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by Chiroptera
10-15-2006 3:44 PM


Re: Start at verse 19.
This is true.
"Move along now folks - nothing here to see"
{AbE} Sorry to be such a hardass CP but the reason some folks are here is that we don't see such a vista as a joke and not at all something to be gloated over. Gloating is the furthest thing from our minds. Horror, despair, anguish....perhaps. But not gloating
Edited by iano, : No reason given.

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Chiroptera
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Message 26 of 45 (356719)
10-15-2006 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by iano
10-15-2006 3:50 PM


Re: Start at verse 19.
That may be true. But when you read the bumber stickers on the cars around here, you certainly get the impression that what some Christians feel is a sense of smug superiority, and a satisfaction that those losers who don't see the light are finally gonna get theirs.

"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." -- George Bernard Shaw

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iano
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Posts: 6165
From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland.
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Message 27 of 45 (356720)
10-15-2006 4:04 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by Chiroptera
10-15-2006 4:03 PM


Re: Start at verse 19.
Sorry. I forgot you lived in Benny Hinn Land

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iano
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Posts: 6165
From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland.
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Message 28 of 45 (356721)
10-15-2006 4:08 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by Chiroptera
10-15-2006 4:03 PM


Re: Start at verse 19.
I must remember the nutcases they have to deal with...
I must remember the nutcases they have to deal with...
I must remember the nutcases they have to deal with...
I must remember the nutcases they have to deal with...
I must remember the nutcases they have to deal with...
I must remember the nutcases they have to deal with...
I must remember the nutcases they have to deal with...
I must remember the nutcases they have to deal with...
I must remember the nutcases they have to deal with...
I must remember the nutcases they have to deal with...
I must remember the nutcases they have to deal with...
I must remember the nutcases they have to deal with...
I must remember the nutcases they have to deal with...
I must remember the nutcases they have to deal with...
I must remember the nutcases they have to deal with...
I must remember the nutcases they have to deal with...

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Damouse
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Posts: 215
From: Brookfield, Wisconsin
Joined: 12-18-2005


Message 29 of 45 (356792)
10-15-2006 10:27 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by Chiroptera
10-15-2006 3:06 PM


quote:
According to Jesus, there is a balcony in Heaven overlooking Hell where the saved get to point at and mock the roasting sinners.
I dk about roasting. the first circle is pretty quiet and boring. The last is pretty cold, so either be marginally bad or reeeeaaaaly bad. (According to Dante)

-I believe in God, I just call it Nature
-One man with an imaginary friend is insane. a Million men with an imaginary friend is a religion.
-People must often be reminded that the bible did not arrive as a fax from heaven; it was written by men.
-Religion is the opiate of the masses

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nyenye
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Message 30 of 45 (356820)
10-16-2006 7:55 AM
Reply to: Message 19 by Madfish
10-15-2006 3:00 PM


hahaha!

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