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ME2
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Message 76 of 221 (34397)
03-14-2003 5:21 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by nator
03-13-2003 7:56 AM


Re: me too! me too!
schrafinator
i know why he is avoiding you...
he can't...
i posed you same question on another board...b\c i thought it was a very good one...and one acknowledged it yet...
oh...but i did get condemed to hell for bringing it up

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Brian
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Message 77 of 221 (34402)
03-14-2003 6:12 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by ME2
03-14-2003 5:21 PM


Re: me too! me too!
I think we should give Conspirator time to answer, he has, after all, thousands of sub standard academic apologetic sites to trawl through.
Give the guy a break, everyone knows that he has started of a topic that has shown that he really isn't a biblical scholar, this is no big deal, we all overestimate our capabilities at times.
What would be good would be that Conspirator would actually study the Bible in a reputable college or university and acknowledge that there is a lot more to the Bible's composition than he realises, or cares to admit.
Oh and ME2, with respect, you are beginning to sound as fanatical as the people you are agitated with, chill out, you have nothing to prove.
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Remembering events that never happened is a dangerous thing!

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Conspirator
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Message 78 of 221 (34460)
03-15-2003 11:41 AM


Yeah, I'm just going to ignore ME2 for now because I'm not going to sink to his level. I've never claimed to be a Bible scholar also. I believe that the Bible has no contradictions. Of course, I can't provide answers to every one of them at this moment, but it's what I believe and I believe that one day they will all have answers. With that said....I'll answer schrafinator.
Both gospel writers are correct in their assertions. The difficulty is answered when we realize that each Gospel writer used a different time system. John follws the Roman time system while Mark follows the Jewish time system.
According to Roman time, the day ran from midnight to midnight. The Jewish 24 hour period in the evening at 6 p.m. and the morning of that day began at 6 a.m. Therefore, when Mark asserts that at the third hour Christ was crucified, this was about 9 a.m. John stated that Christ's trial was about the sixth hour. This would place the trial before the crucifixion and this would not negate any testimony of the Gospel writers. This fits with John's other references to time. For example, he speaks about Jesus being weary from his journey from his trip from Judea to Samaria at the "sixth hour" and asking for water from the woman at the well. Considering the length of his trip, his weariness, and the normal evening time when people come to the well to drink and to water their animals, this fits better with 6 p.m., which is "the sixth hour" of the night by Roman time reckoning. The same is true of John's reference to the tenth hour in John 1:39, which would be 10 a.m., a more likely time to be out preaching at 4 a.m.

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ME2
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Message 79 of 221 (34563)
03-17-2003 10:21 AM
Reply to: Message 77 by Brian
03-14-2003 6:12 PM


Re: me too! me too!
Brian Johnston
bruh..you're right...
agitated...is it showing that much
this thread has me scratching my head and looking dumb founded as to how a person can pull answers like these out of his rump and present them with convection and no proof to back the up with ...
conscriptor...you don't have to respond to me anymore.
there is more than enough posters that can pose question to you that you can't answer...
but it dose tell me alot about you....
you started this thread and started answering questions i might add in an arrogant mannor...
and when they got too hard for you...look at your actions...
1.you dodge and evaded.
2.you presented lame answers
3.you were hypocritical at times.
4.in terms of me...you've folded your arms,pouted,and is stamping your feet...and why...b\c i'm pointing out your flawed interpretations or b\c i won't follow a flawed docterine..
thats being a child...
anywhoo...once again..good point brian...
and conscriptor...i'll leave you to your own dellusions...
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[This message has been edited by ME2, 03-17-2003]

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ME2
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Message 80 of 221 (34564)
03-17-2003 10:27 AM


one last thought...
According to Roman time, the day ran from midnight to midnight. The Jewish 24 hour period in the evening at 6 p.m. and the morning of that day began at 6 a.m. Therefore, when Mark asserts that at the third hour Christ was crucified, this was about 9 a.m.
CAN YOU PROVE THIS...
never mind...b\c if you could you would have posted it to prove your assertion.

Conspirator
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Message 81 of 221 (34565)
03-17-2003 10:35 AM


bruh..you're right...this thread has me scratching my head and looking dumb founded as to how a person can pull answers like these out of his rump and present them with no proof to back the up with convection...
It look to me like you can't follow your own advice because you haven't responded with your proof either, so I guess that makes us even.
conscriptor...you don't have to respond to me anymore.
Fine. I wasn't planning on doing it.
there is more than enough posters that can pose question to you that you can't answer...
We'll see.
you started this thread and started answering questions i might add in an arrogant mannor...
Yeah, I agree. I apologize.
1.you dodge and evaded.
No I didn't. I said I couldn't answer them. That's not dodging or evading.
2.you presented lame answers
We BOTH did.
3.you were hypocritical at times.
I know...
4.in terms of me...you've folded your arms,pouted,and is stamping your feet...and why...b\c i'm pointing out your flawed interpretations or b\c i won't follow a flawed docterine..
No I really didn't. I tried to answer your interpretations, but you were the one that said I was wrong without telling me why I was wrong a lot of the time and continued ignoring me and thought that your interpretation was the only valid one. You told me to look in the dictionary for the word creature without presenting a definition and did other things like that.
CAN YOU PROVE THIS...
Why not try studying Roman history and find out for yourself?

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ME2
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Message 82 of 221 (34568)
03-17-2003 11:44 AM
Reply to: Message 81 by Conspirator
03-17-2003 10:35 AM


conspirator
sorry bruh...but i have and i used your own bible to prove it..
i proved by the bible's own words that there were more than one instance of creation...
i proved that they happened on different days...
and i also proved that there were different typs of creations...
what have you proved.....nothing....
except that you have a lack of comprehension,and nack for wild interpretations,and a vivid imagination....
thats what you have proven....
but why wate time responing to my un-important rants when you have posters that have posed some good and legit questions to you...
don't you me as an excuse for not responding to them...
thats called evading....you say you don't have time to answer them...but you find the time to respond to me...
thats called being hypocritical..
quit responding to me and answer their questions if you can...but which i doubt...
and your not doing my home work for me...
it's called...proving your point..
what you are is sloppy...
i see your type all the time on judge judy....
you come to court with claims and accusations and when asked to present proof...you say...i left it at home or i don't have it with me...
thats what your actions here equate to...
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Conspirator
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Message 83 of 221 (34570)
03-17-2003 11:50 AM


but why wate time responing to my un-important rants when you have posters that have posed some good and legit questions to you...
I already told them that I didn't have an answer.
thats called evading....you say you don't have time to answer them...but you find the time to respond to me...
Actually, what I DID say was that I don't have a single answer for them.
thats called being hypocritical..
Apparently not.
quit responding to me and answer their questions if you can...but which i doubt...
We already went through with this.
and your not doing my home work for me...
I don't remember ever saying this.
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ME2
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Message 84 of 221 (34571)
03-17-2003 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 81 by Conspirator
03-17-2003 10:35 AM


here ya go...
Main Entry: creature
Pronunciation: 'krE-ch&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old French, from Late Latin creatura, from Latin creatus, past participle of creare
Date: 14th century
1 : something created either animate or inanimate: as a : a lower animal; especially : a farm animal
thats why i asked if you were a hog....and do you eat from a troff..
i only used the tools you used...

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Conspirator
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Message 85 of 221 (34572)
03-17-2003 11:58 AM


Here's the definitions from dictionary.com...
Something created.
A living being, especially an animal: land creatures; microscopic creatures in a drop of water.
A human.
An imaginary or fantastical being: mythological creatures; a creature from outer space.
One dependent on or subservient to another.
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ME2
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Message 86 of 221 (34573)
03-17-2003 12:01 PM
Reply to: Message 83 by Conspirator
03-17-2003 11:50 AM


Why not try studying Roman history and find out for yourself?
no you didn't say that...but imo...this is what this equates to...
let me see....
you have responded to me 3 x in a row...
and you have yet to respond to other with actual questions...
whats the problem...
i know...it's easy to respond to ranting instead of answering questions...b\c you don't have to think...

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Conspirator
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Message 87 of 221 (34574)
03-17-2003 12:06 PM


ME2, read my posts. I already responded to you and stated why I couldn't respond to them already. So READ my posts. And why do you like repeating things over again when I have already answered your question?
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ME2
Inactive Member


Message 88 of 221 (34575)
03-17-2003 12:09 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by Conspirator
03-17-2003 11:58 AM


which mean what?
i looked it up and the first one is the populare one...
human is second...meaning...not as popular..
so tell me...are you a microscopic creatures in a drop of water?
instead of saying "i'm human" do you say "i'm a animal"
no you don't b\c there is a distinction

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Conspirator
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Message 89 of 221 (34576)
03-17-2003 12:11 PM


What is the distinction? Because humans certainly aren't plants...

ME2
Inactive Member


Message 90 of 221 (34577)
03-17-2003 12:12 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by Conspirator
03-17-2003 12:06 PM


actualy...
i'm messing with you...just to see how manttime you were going to respond to me after you said that you wasn't...
and now that i have gotten you to admitt to the obvious several times ...i'm done....
think about this the next time you start a thead...don't be a axxx in answering people and telling them where they don't belong..
and be somewhat prepared..
i'm done...

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