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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1742 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
What is the "white race"? Well, you could ask that of Susan Sontag, famous leftie who wrote for the leftist Partisan Review, and is famous for denouncing the white race, but she died a couple years ago so you can't:
Writing in the 1960s about the Vietnam War, Sontag declared "the white Race is the cancer of human history." Days after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, she criticized U.S. foreign policy and offered backhanded praise for the hijackers. In Memoriam Susan Sontag Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
So, if political correctness is actually a joke, and was never really meant to be taken seriously, then who actually holds to the idea? It's not a joke. The term "politically correct" was originally a joke.
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nator Member (Idle past 2467 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
I don't know who Susan Sontag was.
I'm asking you what the "white race" is.
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nator Member (Idle past 2467 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
But who actually holds to the idea?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1742 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It's a leftist PC concept. Ask them. I'm not a leftist.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1742 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Or, let me answer you this way: Your asking me what the white race is amounts to your own version of PC, by which you hope to nail me for accepting the term while you righteously huff about how there supposedly is no such thing as race.
That's PC for sure. The white race is considered to incorporate Europeans from Greece and the Balkans to Britain and France and Spain and from Italy to Scandinavia and Russia.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1764 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Indians "Native Americans" I don't get why this is something that conservatives have a hard-on about. It's not "political correctness", whatever the hell that is; it's the correction of a misnomer. The people you refer to are not from India. Why on Earth would we call them "indians"? It's the arrogance of the conservative, I guess; their arrogant assumption that the peoples of the world look to them to know what the hell they should call themselves.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
But who actually holds to the idea? It's so much a part of our culture that we hardly notice it. I can give you a very good example from this forum. On one thread I was talking about an experience I had when I visited the VA hospital. I was walking around and saw some old men out in a little park where one is allowed to smoke. They were obviously old vets--many missing limbs. My comment on this forum was, "My heart went out to them." What I got in return was a barrage of accusations that I was "dehumanizing" these old men because I felt sorry for them. Political correctness.
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jar Member (Idle past 136 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
So, if political correctness is actually a joke, and was never really meant to be taken seriously, then who actually holds to the idea? "Political Correct" is a term folk love to trot out, usually when their position has been shown to be absurd, bigotted, ridiculous or completely unsupportable. Their hope is that if they shout PC loudly and often enough that no one will notice as they sneak away tail between their legs. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1742 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It's the arrogance of the conservative, I guess; their arrogant assumption that the peoples of the world look to them to know what the hell they should call themselves. Every people group on this planet has its own names for foreigners. Only modern western liberals get all pushed out of shape about the names westerners have historically had for foreigners. {edit; If it were merely a correction of a mistake, the outraged moralistic attitude would not be there. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
The more I think about this injunction that we must not judge others, the sillier it seems. We judge people all the time. Moreover, why is the judgment of others always thought of in a negative sense? They are also favorable judgments. They are many different kinds of judgment. What you are saying is very valid. But when Jesus told us not to judge others it was in direct context with hypocritical people who condemn people for a certain action, but then turn around and do the same thing. That's why He went on to describe what its like with the 'plank in the eye.' But we are supposed to recognize people and how they act. I don't think there is no ambiguity concerning that. “If chance be the father of all flesh then disaster is his rainbow in the sky. And when you hear of, state of emergencies, sniper kills ten, youths go looting, bomb blasts school, it is but the sound of man worshipping his maker” -Steve Turner
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Heathen Member (Idle past 1581 days) Posts: 1067 From: Brizzle Joined: |
y'see that's not what I would call political correctness at all.. that is what the (right wing as I see them) like to label political correctness as.
My view of political correctness is simply avoiding labelling people in such a way as to offend.i.e. Not calling a black person a nigger Not calling a Jew a Yid Not calling an irishman a Paddy Not calling a mentally disabled person a retard Not calling mexican a beaner Not calling a white person a honky etc...etc... This is simply because these labels have connotations which are not representative of that which they label. The problem is that the political right trot out the 'Political correctness' line as a derogatory label every time someone takes issue with their bigotry. funny that..
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
"Political Correct" is a term folk love to trot out, usually when their position has been shown to be absurd, bigotted, ridiculous or completely unsupportable No, it's a moral system. Your illogical religion is built upon its ideas.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1764 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
If it were merely a correction of a mistake, the outraged moralistic attitude would not be there. Come on. Get real. How long do you think it was before people realized that North America and India were two different places? And yet, they persisted in the term "indians" for people who weren't at all indian. The "mistake" persisted for centuries because of an entire culture's arrogant presumption that they got to determine what other people were called. Sure, there's a little bit of outrage there. But I guess cultural offense only counts to you if it's white people being offended.
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robinrohan Inactive Member |
But when Jesus told us not to judge others it was in direct context with hypocritical people who condemn people for a certain action, but then turn around and do the same thing. I'm not sure, but I think you may be right about that. But the ubiquity of the "judge not" idea is not in American culture due to Christianity.
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