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robinrohan
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Message 91 of 192 (337441)
08-02-2006 5:03 PM
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08-02-2006 4:58 PM


Re: what will YOU become after you die?
It's inadvertently Monty-Pythonesque.
What does that mean?

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jar
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Message 92 of 192 (337449)
08-02-2006 5:10 PM
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08-02-2006 4:58 PM


Re: what will YOU become after you die?
That really is too funny. I also think it really misses what the message of Jesus life was. I believe he was telling us we need to strive for that minimal standard now, while we live. To think it will only happen after death makes the whole message of Jesus life somewhat of a sad joke.

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Heathen
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Message 93 of 192 (337457)
08-02-2006 5:26 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by iano
08-02-2006 4:47 PM


Re: back on topic
iano writes:
Not necessarily so Crevo me old flower. I gave an analogy a while back which you might have missed. That of a bike gearbox. You can put it into gear and drive away from God. Or God can put it into neutral and pull you back to him. He puts it into neutral and pulls (you will be saved) or you can kick it back into gear and drive off (you will be lost)
You do nothing at all to contribute to your salvation - except not reject it.
if your inaction in this case is a concious decision then you are certainly deciding to let yourself be saved. Your decision results in you being saved.
You could be forgiven for feeling a little smug for making this decision if you believe it was the right one.
iano writes:
Or God can put it into neutral
So you are returning to a view now where God does not flip everyone's gearbox into neutral? not everyone is present with salvation?

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nator
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Message 94 of 192 (337467)
08-02-2006 5:42 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by robinrohan
08-02-2006 5:03 PM


I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK!
It's inadvertently Monty-Pythonesque.
quote:
What does that mean?
It means, "in the style of Monty Python".
From the wiki.
Monty Python, or The Pythons, is the collective name of the creators of Monty Python's Flying Circus, a British television comedy sketch show that first aired on the BBC on October 5, 1969. A total of 45 episodes were made over four series. However, the Python phenomenon was much greater, spawning stage tours, a musical, four films, numerous albums, and several books, as well as launching the members to individual stardom.
The television series, broadcast by the BBC from 1969 to 1974, was conceived, written and performed by Graham Chapman, John Cleese, Terry Gilliam, Eric Idle, Terry Jones and Michael Palin. Loosely structured as a sketch show, but with a highly innovative stream-of-consciousness approach (aided by Terry Gilliam's animations), it pushed the boundaries of what was then considered acceptable, both in terms of style and content.
The group's influence upon comedy has been compared to that which The Beatles had on music (George Harrison regarded them as taking over where The Beatles left off and in fact became friendly with the cast). Their influence on the British comedic spectrum has been apparent for years, while in America it is especially evident in more recent absurdist trends in television comedy.
Robin, I just want to say that if it is really true that you don't know about Monty Python, I am terribly sad for you.
Edited by schrafinator, : No reason given.

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robinrohan
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Message 95 of 192 (337471)
08-02-2006 5:51 PM
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08-02-2006 5:42 PM


Re: I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK!
Robin, I just want to say that if it is really true that you don't know about Monty Python, I am terribly sad for you.
I know about Monty Python, but my question was a bit more specific.

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ringo
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Message 96 of 192 (337472)
08-02-2006 5:51 PM
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08-02-2006 4:47 PM


Re: back on topic
iano writes:
That of a bike gearbox. You can put it into gear and drive away from God. Or God can put it into neutral and pull you back to him.
What's the point of a gearbox if it's always in neutral?

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Legend
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Message 97 of 192 (337476)
08-02-2006 6:02 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by robinrohan
08-02-2006 5:03 PM


You've all got to work it out for yourselves
robin,
The Monty Python were to modern comedy what Jesus was to Christianity.
I strongly recommend you watch their film 'Life of Brian' one of the best satires ever made . It cuts on so many levels.

"In life, you have to face that some days you'll be the pigeon and some days you'll be the statue."

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robinrohan
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Message 98 of 192 (337478)
08-02-2006 6:05 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by Legend
08-02-2006 6:02 PM


Re: You've all got to work it out for yourselves
The Monty Python were to modern comedy what Jesus was to Christianity.
I strongly recommend you watch their film 'Life of Brian' one of the best satires ever made . It cuts on so many levels.
Well, there's a vague answer if I ever heard one. If "Life of Brian" is about the Brian who posts here, I might be interested. I get the impression that he's a football hooligan and an atheist priest, who grabs life by the balls.
Might be interesting.
Edited by robinrohan, : No reason given.

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iano
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From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland.
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Message 99 of 192 (337481)
08-02-2006 6:11 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by robinrohan
08-02-2006 4:52 PM


Re: back on topic
I'm attempting to give the benefit of the doubt. To express Christian love. To judge not.
All that glitters as arrogant as hell is not gold...a fact I try so often to convince others of...

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Heathen
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Joined: 09-20-2005


Message 100 of 192 (337485)
08-02-2006 6:15 PM
Reply to: Message 96 by ringo
08-02-2006 5:51 PM


Re: back on topic
ringo writes:
What's the point of a gearbox if it's always in neutral?
Adam and Eve had automatics, since the fall however, we've been relegated to changing our own gears.
When we get drunk(on jesus) god offers to take the keys. and drives you home...you can of course refuse, but you risk being breathlysed by satan's traffic cops.
"Blow into this.."

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nator
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From: Ann Arbor
Joined: 12-09-2001


Message 101 of 192 (337487)
08-02-2006 6:22 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by Heathen
08-02-2006 6:15 PM


Re: back on topic
quote:
When we get drunk(on jesus)...
Yes, too much "Jesus" impairs your judgement and makes you a danger to yourself and those around you.
You may even end up in the hospital, or die from "Jesus poisining".

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Legend
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Posts: 1226
From: Wales, UK
Joined: 05-07-2004


Message 102 of 192 (337488)
08-02-2006 6:23 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by jar
08-02-2006 5:10 PM


Re: what will YOU become after you die?
jar writes:
I also think it really misses what the message of Jesus life was. I believe he was telling us we need to strive for that minimal standard now, while we live.
absolutely, I can't see how anyone can read through the gospels and not realise this.
jar writes:
To think it will only happen after death makes the whole message of Jesus life somewhat of a sad joke.
it is a sad joke that people can, in the same sentence, proclaim Jesus as their personal saviour and also state that his teachings are vague or meaningless without further 'clarification', 'expansion' or 'interpretation'.

"In life, you have to face that some days you'll be the pigeon and some days you'll be the statue."

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robinrohan
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Message 103 of 192 (337490)
08-02-2006 6:27 PM
Reply to: Message 99 by iano
08-02-2006 6:11 PM


Re: back on topic
I'm attempting to give the benefit of the doubt. To express Christian love. To judge not.
Not being a Christian, I'm not under those restrictions. I judge it as the ultimate in smugness.

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RickJB
Member (Idle past 5020 days)
Posts: 917
From: London, UK
Joined: 04-14-2006


Message 104 of 192 (337491)
08-02-2006 6:28 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by Heathen
08-02-2006 6:15 PM


Re: back on topic
creavolution writes:
When we get drunk(on jesus) god offers to take the keys. and drives you home...you can of course refuse, but you risk being breathlysed by satan's traffic cops.
So the best way to avoid Satan is to avoid Jesus!
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Legend
Member (Idle past 5036 days)
Posts: 1226
From: Wales, UK
Joined: 05-07-2004


Message 105 of 192 (337492)
08-02-2006 6:29 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by robinrohan
08-02-2006 6:05 PM


Re: You've all got to work it out for yourselves
I was implying that Ian's statement inadvertently carried the same surreal sense of humour typical of Monty Python.
You should really watch 'Life of Brian' if you haven't.
robinrohan writes:
I get the impression that he's a football hooligan and an atheist priest
an atheist priest?? how does that work ?

"In life, you have to face that some days you'll be the pigeon and some days you'll be the statue."

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