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Author Topic:   Definition of Life
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Message 36 of 77 (335130)
07-25-2006 10:04 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by Jon
07-25-2006 5:41 AM

Seems a little narrow as definitions go
but there is something telling me it isn't quite that easy.
I have to agree. That seems way to restrictive as a way to define life.
What about the possibility of non-carbon based life forms. how about the possibility of electrical lifeforms such as certain computer programs. Some are now getting very close to life. They reproduce, mutate and are largely subject to the same rules as other life forms.
Check out WikiManual for an example of an A-life program. There are plenty more.
Are they alive? Maybe not now but who knows in the future as they become more and more sophisticated.

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Message 38 of 77 (335222)
07-25-2006 3:52 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by Jon
07-25-2006 3:31 PM

Re: Seems a little narrow as definitions go
I do find it difficult though to consider the computer program alive without a 'housing' for it.
try looking at it in a slightly different way.
The computer is the "Universe", the environment if you like, in which the programs live. It contains the food source and everything that is necessary for the programs to interact with each other.
Did you check out the link I gave you?
DarwinBots each consist of a chunk of "DNA" code that is capable of making decisions based on inputs from the environment in which it lives. There can be thousands of them all interacting, fighting, forming comunities, even joining togather to make larger multi-cellular animals (albut very simple ones).
But you see, the computer is not a large item made of many smaller ones.
Not really the right analogy as the computer is the environment and not the life form.
What about computer worms and viruses? they exist on the internet and infect computers then reproduce (often with mutations), sending their progeny back into the world wide web.
This seems to meet many of the criteria for life but I'm not sure if i would go quite so far as to say they are alive.
Where do we draw the line?

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