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Author Topic:   General discussion of moderation procedures - Part 7
AdminBuzsaw
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Message 166 of 304 (333258)
07-19-2006 9:56 AM
Reply to: Message 157 by Brian
07-16-2006 6:26 PM


Re: Ray's ban unfair
Brian writes:
I think Ray's ban for calling me an idiot is unfair.
Ray has learning difficulties, and should be given a little bit more wiggle room.
1. According to my dictionary the primary definition is as follows. There are plenty of less meanspirited and inflamitory means of expressing one's frustration in the English language with the opponent than this word.
my dictionary writes:
Idiot = 1. A mentally deficient person with an intelligence of less than 25; person mentally equal or inferior to a child two years old: idiot is the lowest classification of mental deficiency, below imbecile and moron.
2. Sometimes this word is used to simply depict a stupid person. Nevertheless, if it is allowable in some cases and not others this leaves admins with this ongoing problem of fair judgement and leaves all members uncertain as to where the line is drawn, arguing about what they really meant when using it et al. Why not just eliminate the problem and use more respectable words to communicate?
Abe: I was the moderator who gave the brief suspension.
Edited by AdminBuzsaw, : No reason given.

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 167 of 304 (333356)
07-19-2006 2:42 PM
Reply to: Message 166 by AdminBuzsaw
07-19-2006 9:56 AM


Re: Ray's ban unfair
I was the moderator who gave the brief suspension.
Then why I am still suspended from Coffee House ?
What blatantly biased act have you ever done in behalf of another Creationist in order to test your Darwinian handlers ?
We know the Darwinian Mods save their own kind without blinking an eye every time facts have them in state of humiliation.
Whats the point of having god damn creationist mods if they are not going to engage in some biased moderating ? You and Faith were chosen because EvC deemed the both of you dumb Fundies who could be bought with a little pseudo power & respect.
Faith is semi-illiterate as is seen in her grammar and you are the epitome of Judas kissing Jesus in behalf of His enemies the Pharisees, who in this context is the atheists and Darwinists of EvC Forum.
There is no way around it: the Fundies of Science and Religion disapprove of me =
Ray Martinez, Protestant Evangelical Paulinist
P.S.
Brian: you are still an idiot - your friend Ray.

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AdminBuzsaw
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Message 168 of 304 (333369)
07-19-2006 2:57 PM
Reply to: Message 167 by Cold Foreign Object
07-19-2006 2:42 PM


Re: Ray's ban unfair
Ray, it was Admin and not me who suspended you from coffee house. All I did was to give you a 12 hr needed sabatical. Now you can take a 24 hr break for your insulant attitude here. Next time expect that to at least double according to the magnitude of the offense.

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deerbreh
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Message 169 of 304 (333385)
07-19-2006 3:18 PM
Reply to: Message 161 by Admin
07-17-2006 8:26 PM


Re: Equivalent to "Just Joking"?
My vote would be to outlaw "idiot" "liar", the "f-word", "yo mama" insults and anything deemed to be the equivalent or derivitive by the moderators. Everything else goes.

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Message 170 of 304 (333386)
07-19-2006 3:18 PM
Reply to: Message 167 by Cold Foreign Object
07-19-2006 2:42 PM


Re: Ray's ban unfair
Hi Ray,
Those showcased in the Showcase forum are intended to have privileges in these forums:
Showcase
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Links and Information
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Suggestions and Questions
Announcements
Post of the Month
Proposed New Topics
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That you had privileges for Coffee House was inadvertent, and I fixed this a few days ago. I apologize to you for this mistake that led you to believe you were entitled to Coffee House access.

--Percy
EvC Forum Director

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Omnivorous
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Message 171 of 304 (333571)
07-19-2006 11:37 PM
Reply to: Message 169 by deerbreh
07-19-2006 3:18 PM


Re: Equivalent to "Just Joking"?
deerbreh writes:
My vote would be to outlaw "idiot" "liar", the "f-word", "yo mama" insults and anything deemed to be the equivalent or derivitive by the moderators. Everything else goes.
Does that mean I could call Ray a ninny? Or a nattering nabob of negativism? A numbskull of nincompoopery, nimieties, and niminy-piminy?
If I shouldn't, I won't.
I am exploring my boundaries now so that I won't have issues later.

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Nighttrain
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Message 172 of 304 (333576)
07-19-2006 11:59 PM
Reply to: Message 166 by AdminBuzsaw
07-19-2006 9:56 AM


Re: Ray's ban unfair
Idiot = 1. A mentally deficient person with an intelligence of less than 25; person mentally equal or inferior to a child two years old: idiot is the lowest classification of mental deficiency, below imbecile and moron.
Hi, Buz, is this a linear scale? IOW, can I match two idiots with a moron?

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Buzsaw
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Message 173 of 304 (333603)
07-20-2006 1:31 AM
Reply to: Message 172 by Nighttrain
07-19-2006 11:59 PM


Re: Ray's ban unfair
Nightrain writes:
.......can I match two idiots with a moron?
Only if the moron is a polygamist.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

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Nighttrain
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Message 174 of 304 (333609)
07-20-2006 2:14 AM
Reply to: Message 173 by Buzsaw
07-20-2006 1:31 AM


Re: Ray's ban unfair

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deerbreh
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Message 175 of 304 (333690)
07-20-2006 10:13 AM
Reply to: Message 171 by Omnivorous
07-19-2006 11:37 PM


Re: Equivalent to "Just Joking"?
omni writes:
Does that mean I could call Ray a ninny? Or a nattering nabob of negativism? A numbskull of nincompoopery, nimieties, and niminy-piminy?
Well, under the proposed deer rules, it is a moderator call as to whether any of those are equivalent to idiot et al. However, as my dictionary defines ninny as fool or simpleton, I think a fair minded moderator is going to say that is the equivalent of "idiot". You will have to ask William Safire about "nattering nabobs....", as I believe he was the author of that pugilistic piece of puffery. As for the others - they strike me as falling into the category of childish, and since that usually reflects more on the author instead of the recipient (think of calling someone a poopy head, for example), I would tend to let it go were I a moderator.

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Message 176 of 304 (333720)
07-20-2006 11:22 AM
Reply to: Message 175 by deerbreh
07-20-2006 10:13 AM


Re: Equivalent to "Just Joking"?
Theodore Spiro Agnew. Commonly called Ted unless the Greek Vote was needed.

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deerbreh
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Message 177 of 304 (333734)
07-20-2006 11:52 AM
Reply to: Message 176 by jar
07-20-2006 11:22 AM


Re: Equivalent to "Just Joking"?
Spiro "Ted" Agnew spake it, but William Safire (Nixon speech writer) wrote it. Ted Agnew wouldn't have known a nabob from a kabob, let alone a nattering one.

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Faith 
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Message 178 of 304 (334442)
07-22-2006 11:58 PM


Just a question about Adminjar's off-topic message on the Hindu Marriage thread. The title of that thread is not really descriptive of the OP which is concerned with what qualifies as marriage in general, off the topic of gay marriage. Or really, it's about why Christians treat marriages in other cultures and religions as legitimate, but that's pretty much been answered already.
In any case, we've been discussing marriage from one angle or another all along, so I'd like an explanation of exactly how we are off topic at this point. Maybe the OP needs a rewording. Maybe I promoted it before it was ready.
JAR's warning message
The opening post
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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AdminJar
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Message 179 of 304 (334444)
07-23-2006 12:16 AM
Reply to: Message 178 by Faith
07-22-2006 11:58 PM


You and omni were headed off into defining belief systems, whether your belief system were subjective, whether you base your position on some personal belief.
None of that has anything to do that I can see with the subject.
Gay Marriage only comes ito the issue in relation to the validity of a marriage sanctioned by some other GOD. It is not about whether you consider Gay Marriage moral or otherwise, but only how you justify the difference in legitimacy between the two.

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SuperNintendo Chalmers
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Message 180 of 304 (334468)
07-23-2006 8:21 AM


whatever
I'm going to give you a warning, SNC. You habitually skirt the edge of violating Rule 10 and if you keep it up you'll take some time off.
Faith.... I have been called an idiot by you at least 50 times...
And you are STILL doing it even though you are an admin.
I'd advise you to take your own advice..... it's pretty offensive that you are now allowed to chastise others about rule 10 when you are one of the worst offenders (if not THE worst) at EvC.
If you want to point out that something violates rule 10 fine. But keep you opinions about my behavior to yourself.

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