Abortion questions...?

Thanks dude

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

This has GOT to be a record for this forum. We have just traded in an abortion debate without biting each other's heads off!

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

Hey mody, i'm going to get-around-to-it and delve into this post of yours. You brought up some interesting answers. National law in the USA makes it legal in medical or choice situations, though I remmber something about the good old state of south dakota banning most kinds of abortions (though penalties for illegal abortions in that state are as of yet unknown, at least to me)In a sense, it does depend on national law or local ones, but you have to be careful how that works. Under former USSR National law, it was illegal to speak against the state (they might have labeled it "terrorism" or "treason", ) and therefore sending someone who has done so to a Gulag (nasty soviet work camp) wouldn't be seen as murder, but "execution". In Vlad Tepes' ("Vlad the Impaler" also "Vlad Dracula)rule of Wallachia (in romania) it wasn't "murder" to impale so many turks that the area that it occured became known as "the forest of the impaled" (Though Vlad's crimes have been under scrutiny)And I hate to use these guys again (forgive me) but in Nazi Germany, Killing Jews, Gypsies, Russian soldiers, Free Masons, Gays, Possibly Lesbians, some Catholic clergy and other Christians, Slavs, Communists, and probably a whole lot more in concentration camps was not "murder" in Nazi law, but "extermination". Yeah, but I keep hearing people say how you become a human being after being birthed out of the woman. If a guy is making love, a part of him is partially back in, albiet in another female. So if the birth canal has the ability (magic?) to make a fetus human, then a guy making love to a woman should be considered a little less human. Grizzly bears and Lions are animals, not humans. My dog believes he's human, but his body and frame is like a lions.Edited by LudoRephaim, : No reason given.Edited by LudoRephaim, : No reason given.Edited by LudoRephaim, : No reason given.

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

Hey BrennakimiSorry for the late reply: Had a bad storm and a bad debate a while back. Dont you remember the Midol remark?Cant debate much. See you later.

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

Of the avacado kind, yes (hehehe) But thats sorta what I hear from some proponents, including Michael Moore if i remember corectly (give me time, i'll look it up.) Sorry, I should have used better words. I meant that if it wans't a human being. Be careful! My dog and other animals may sue u for slander: It is degrading to animals to call humans an animal. They dont want to be associated with us for ANY reason whatever lol. I think im less than a human. My step sister said I have cro magnon facial features. Nicer than my older Brother's observations. Have to take ur word on that. Not experienced it yet.Cant stay long. Hope for the repli

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

Yeah, but original...at least I hope.College coming up soon. Wont be on the site for a LOOONG time after mid august. And I moderate a different forum elsewhere. Not to mention my brthday soon.peace

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

Thanks for showing you are not worth a reply

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

Hey somebody has to tell you that y're being a sadistic cruel *#@**!, might as well be myself. No, not just whatever. You just stated with youre own words that you would commit cruely to animals. Most people reading youre post probably think that you are #@*@#! like I do. And yet you argue it Besides, Brennakimi is a woman, and does argue in this thread. Did thou forget this, hmmm? I cant readpond to those in the gay marraige thread due to something I have called a LIFE. I have much better things to do than debate 30+ or so people almost by myself about that particular area, and it eats up plenty of time I will never get back. If it was only a few to debate with, or 1 on 1, I would have kept with it.I was going to ignore youre posts, but I couldn't resist this last one.Edited by LudoRephaim, : No reason given.

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

So...if the Nazis didn't enjoy cruelty when they slaughtered nearly 30 million russians and 12 million victims of the holocaust (Jews, Gypsies, commies, so on), would they have deserved to be left off the hook?

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

...yet you replied I'm not saying that the Holocaust is only as bad as getting rid of puppies. Of course it is ironic that if a group of people are believed to be less than human (i.e animal) they can suffer cruelty that animals suffer as well (Jews where said to be not even human in Nazi Germany. And like multiple animnal species, they where targeted for extinction.)I'm asking YOU a question: is it okay to be cruel if you dont enjoy cruelty? Whether cruelty to humans or cruelty to animals, is it okay to be cruel to the extreme if you dont enjoy cruelty??Is it okay to have dog fights in youre back yard and have two pitbulls torn up and scarred if you dont enjoy cruelty?Is it okay to beat youre wife if you dont enjoy cruelty?Is it okay to wipe an entire species of animal out if you dont enjoy cruelty?You have not answered. Edited by LudoRephaim, : No reason given.

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

Indeed! Im human and I dont want to admit it lol!

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

I also have high regard for fetuses/varmints/babies outside the womb and some kids as well.Probably one reason is that i've never got kicked in the nuts by a fetus (though a kid kicked me there when I was young), nor have heared of children/fetuses/babies/varmints ramming into buildings with commercial airplanes on purpose, or even canceling Startrek on Television (before my time when it comes to the very first show, but the hurt still lingers...)I've never heared a fetus promoting the metric system or killing out the California Texas and other Grizzlies of the lower states, Cry that fetuses and babies of an unsaved couple or paretn goes to Hell to Give God the glory (as some calvinists i've met believe)and yet say babies dont deserve to die in abortion (double standard, if you think about it.I'll think of some more soon. Hold on a seck...........

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

No, that's what you want me to have said. I didn't mean to make those acts equal. Man I am Soooooo heartbroken!I dont care if you want to continue this or not. I personally dont want to debate with someone who calls anybody who doesn;t agree with him a bigot, cusses like a sailor, wants to slaughter puppies and the unborn, and ignores or misreads or misinterprets what I write. I never have and never will say that killing puppies is as bad as killing innocent jweish people in the Holocaust. I merely brought up the holocaust because it seems you have no problem with commiting a cruel deed if you dont enjoy cruelty. Does commiting a cruel act irrelevant based on whether you enjoy cruelty or not? Once again, you have not answered. I dont know you tell me.

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

Maybe you can ask the dead former head of Aushwitz death camp, Rudoplh Hoss. According to "The Great War and the Shaping of the 20th Century" by Jay Winter (WW1 Historian) and Blaine Bagget, page 397, He was no sadist (being cruel and enjoying it, taking pleasure out of cruelty)but was addicted to Obedience. This man oversaw the slaughter and torture of 2 million people at Aushwitz and brutally murdered a former Schoolteacher named Kadow with help by beating him with clubs, shooting him (which Hoss himself did not shoot) and slitting the guy's throat. Yet he became nauseated at seeing concentration camp prisoners lashed with the whip.Go figureEdited by LudoRephaim, : No reason given.

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

I tried to add a little humor, that's all. Michael Moore did something similar in his recent book "Dude! where's my country" where he listed the great accomplishments and inventions of the french people, and then added "The Etch-a-sketch" as the pinnacle of them.

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4