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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3959 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
sorry been out of town (still am, gave in).
Nearly lost Brennakimi as a freind in it (we made up later i don't remember this at all.
1. Is Partial birth abortion murder? I am asking this because some say that a fetus isn't human until after it is born. If the fetus/baby is born halfway, is it human or not?? i first want to clear a few things up.
quote: ok. the procedure is called a dilation and extraction. they are very rare.
quote: despite what you might think, most "partial birth" abortions are based on life and health reasons. let me tell you precisely how much i want to wait eight months through a pregnancy to have the precious joy of stabbing something in my body and sucking the life out of it like the pro-life camp would have you believe. these are rare and occur under serious circumstances. and they can be done long before the fetus is viable (can survive on its own). most abortions take place within the first one or two months... generally as soon as a woman discovers she is pregnant which is usually the first missed period. do i think it is murder? i don't know. do i think hat a woman and her doctor should be permitted to decide that a 'baby' is not going to achieve consciousness or that the woman is litterally out of her mind over this pregnancy and will quite possibly kill herself and it should be ended? a resounding YES. the point of my opinion isn't really "is it wrong". the point of my opinion is that we have personalized healthcare in this nation. we also have laws protecting idividual rights. who am i to decide for every woman and every pregnancy what is and is not acceptable? in my personal and biblical opinion, a fetus becomes a baby when it breathes on its own. generally, historically, the point was 'quickening' which is usually around five months i think. most elective abortions are done far before then.
2. If a baby is halfway born (partial birth), is it called a "fetaby" or a "betus"?? is a 4 month old fetus that is the size of an avocado a baby when it is removed from the body? there is no magical point halfway through the birth canal at which one becomes a baby. that's ridiculous.
3. Hypothetically, if it is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that a fetus, all the way to an embryo, is a human being, would you still support a woman's right to choose? prior to fertilization, a poential fetus is human. after fertilization, a zygote is human. before the layers form, it is human. after the layers form, it is human. when it still has a tail, it is human, after the legs split, it is human. and so forth. it has human dna, it is human. is it a baby? is it alive? is it a separate entity from it's mother? if it were proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that is is a baby and it has feelings and hopes and fears and whatnot, yes, i would still support a woman's right to choose.
4.If your loveable dog is pregnant with puppies, but you dont want them and cant support them with your finances, would you abort the puppies, or give away or sell them to a family that has a desire for 'em? if that someone else is willing to pay to take care of my dog if the pregnancy damages her health, sure. but i'm smart and i have had my dog fixed. however, if my dog is pregnant with something other than puppies, i want to wait and find out what they are.
5. If a Fetus is not human, would it be regarded as an animal, and if so, subject to animal rights? it is human. it is not a human. it is an animal because all humans are animals. this is a silly question.
6. If a baby is a baby after it comes out of the womans birth canal, then if a guy is making love to a woman, would he be a little less than human? men are generally a little less than human. perhaps when a man is making love to a woman, he is actually fully human.
7. If it was made legal to end the life of a 1-10 year old kid if the parent/parents make that choice, would you be for or against it? depends on the extenuating circumstances. will they be charged with neglect if they just leave the kid somewhere for someone else to care for (like an emergency room). what if the kid has developed an untreatable condition? what if the kid is incoridgably evil? what if it's the 666 kid? the problem is the difference here between killing and abusing. if i can kill my 1-10 year old kid, why can't i beat it? i think it's too dangerous. and a 1-10 year old kid (sorry, 0-10) can breathe on its own and be fed by someone else. if someone wants to start investigating the potential for fetus transplants from someone who doesn't want it to someone who does and is willing to pay for the procedure, then fine. also. the idea behind abortion isn't the right to kill someone. it's the right to not be pregnant. it's the right for a woman to have more say in her use as a reproductive vessel than her husband. you do understand that concept right? it's an extension of the idea that a woman is not the property of the men in her family to do with as they please. the point is, my husband can't just knock me up whenever he feels like it. i have absolute control over my own medical care INCLUDING my uterus.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3959 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
Have you seen god? If so, how extensive was your study if HIS anatomy? does this mean it's okay to abort boys with pencil dick genes? because god clearly has a very large penis. and jesus was hung like this (hold arms out like cross). sorry. couldn't help myself.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3959 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
i eat meat, because i refuse to make a distinction between animals and plants. they are both alive and i have no choice but to eat both. besides. there are loads of carnivorous species and they don't seem to have any problems with this shit. particularly sharks and baby seals. i wanna eat me some baby seal. i wonder if it'll still feel cute in my tummy?
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3959 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
bluebell ice cream and my cousin. the only good things to come out of texas.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3959 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
i found those statistics as well and and quite aware of the problem. i have a friend with it, but i think she developed it after she was born. ask arach. he knows her better than i.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3959 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
just in case you didn't notice my reply.
and i still have no idea what you were talking about. my apologies to everyone else. Edited by brennakimi, : No reason given.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3959 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
oh right. yeah. bad form mate
looking forward to your return and response.
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