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ringo

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Message 13 of 125 (333370)
07-19-2006 2:58 PM

Reply to: Message 8 by Chief Infidel
07-19-2006 2:41 PM

Chief Infidel writes:

Perhaps Gen 7:20 means that the floodwaters exceeded the tops of the highest mountains at the time by 15 cubits.

It probably means that the authors of genesis:

Had no conception of what "the highest mountains" are.
Had no conception of "sea level".

I live 1975 feet above sea level and the highest hills nearby are not much higher. If it flooded 15 cubits deep, it would certainly look like the whole world was flooded. If I didn't have geography books to tell me different, I could be forgiven for describing it that way.

(Are you really the chief of all infidels? I've been called an infidel. Does that make you my boss?

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Message 43 of 125 (333510)
07-19-2006 7:43 PM

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07-19-2006 7:32 PM

DrJones* writes:

... a creationist will tell you "of course we don't find large amounts of water under the crust now, the fountains of the deep spewed it all out during the flood".

I dunno about that:

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Exo 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

It seems there was still water under the earth during Moses' time - and there was something with idol-potential living in it.

But then, we wouldn't want to limit the YECs to what's actually in the Bible, would we?

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Message 46 of 125 (333535)
07-19-2006 8:40 PM

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07-19-2006 8:24 PM

Coragyps writes:

That "under" is still the water beneath the disc of the whole immobile (pillar-supported?) earth, though.

Yes. The Bible seems to imply that (much of) it went back down there after the flood. Maybe the giant turtle drank the rest.

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Message 63 of 125 (333768)
07-20-2006 3:36 PM

Reply to: Message 62 by Chief Infidel
07-20-2006 3:17 PM

Re: Gotta Have Faith!

Chief Infidel writes:

How many standard 3.5 gpm shower heads would it take in my 3x3 shower to simulate the flood rising at 31ft/hour?

Do the experiment: plug the drain and measure.

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