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ringo

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Message 8 of 33 (332539)
07-17-2006 12:14 PM

Reply to: Message 7 by Phat
07-17-2006 11:21 AM

Re: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly

Phat writes:

I personally believe that we humans are made in Gods image.

If the Good in humans is an image of God, then so must be the Bad and the Ugly.

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Message 10 of 33 (332554)
07-17-2006 2:01 PM

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07-17-2006 1:05 PM

Re: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly

Phat writes:

If the Good in humans is an image of God, then so must be the Bad and the Ugly.

Thats presupposing that there is only One image.

On the contrary, I'm saying that all of the aspects of mankind are reflections of the corresponding aspects of God. We are created in all af His images.

The "Bad" and the "Ugly" images of God are particularly well portrayed in the Old Testament.

we are but a reflection of ourselves, and we have a choice of which image we choose to portray.

And all of those images are images of God.

If I look in a mirror and forget what I look like, who in the heck do I think I am?

I AM?

That's another topic.

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Message 14 of 33 (333766)
07-20-2006 3:20 PM

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07-20-2006 10:43 AM

Re: Why?

Phat writes:

carini writes: Why would god create humans?

Did He create us as sick and twisted?

He created us just the way we are, whether sick and twisted or healthy and gay/straight.

Even if one is foolish enough to believe in "the Fall", God is still responsible for creating us with the potential to fall. If we fell, we got the falling sickness from Him.

CK writes: if you had the ability to see the future and knew how it would all turn out?

I would then be faced with deciding IF I should create humans or not.

well....He obviously DID create us...

Is it obvious?

Maybe He did forsee that we would be "sick and twisted". Maybe He decided not to "create" us directly but to let us evolve naturally.

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Message 17 of 33 (333970)
07-21-2006 12:08 PM

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07-21-2006 11:22 AM

Re: Industrious or Destructive?

Phat writes:

I wonder how long it will take until we evolve beyond this point of potential destruction?

I wonder why you perceive "industrious" and "destructive" as different?

A top-fuel dragster is naturally more dangerous than a tricycle. With more powerful technology comes more danger. I don't know why you think we can evolve "beyond" that.

Similarly, God is naturally more dangerous than we are, because of His superior "technology". The Bible portrays him misusing His technology in the past: for example, flooding the entire earth when fire and brimstone would have been more selective.

The Good, the Bad and the Ugly sides of man are all still images of God.

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Message 19 of 33 (333984)
07-21-2006 12:44 PM

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07-21-2006 12:31 PM

Re: Industrious or Destructive?

Phat writes:

Apparantly, you believe that God is but a creation of the human mind.

Not necessarily. Our perception of God is a creation of the human mind. Why else would there be so many different perceptions of God?

Whether God exists externally or not, our internal "understanding" of God is all we have.

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