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jar
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Message 2 of 35 (331613)
07-13-2006 7:22 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by kjsimons
07-13-2006 7:17 PM


I was under the impression that if you want you can also say "I so affirm" or an equivalent affirmation if you wish.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 10 of 35 (331733)
07-14-2006 11:40 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by Phat
07-14-2006 10:52 AM


Re: Its cultural
The entire church/state controversy is being debated between liberal humanist organizations such as the A.C.L.U. who are being urgd to eliminate religion from public life, and neocon conservatives who do NOT want such historic tradition eliminated from public life.
But that statement is simply wrong on several counts.
First, the ACLU is as active protecting religion as in opposing it. No less Christian Icon than Jerry Falwell used the ACLU to support his religious rights. The ACLU is NOT a liberal humanist organization despite the attempts by the fundies and evangelicals to characterize it as such.
Second, no one is trying to eliminate religion from public life.
Some of us get offended that our children are being taught that collective human wisdom is the apex of authority.
Yet no one has been able to show that that is even happening.

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jar
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Message 14 of 35 (331751)
07-14-2006 1:29 PM
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07-14-2006 12:37 PM


Re: Its cultural
Actually that was the origin of the Affirm statement. It was an action by Christian groups, IIRC Mennonite or Amish, against swearing.

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