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LudoRephaim Member (Idle past 5113 days) Posts: 651 From: Jareth's labyrinth Joined: |
Hello Nuggin.
You seem to be giving an assault on conservatives (or so called). Being a Conservative myself, I find a lot of this that you state not part of my personal political and moral beliefs. consider the following.
Nuggin writes: Should we send poor middle American Children to Iraq to garantee massive revenue for exxon-yes. Im conservative and yet do not believe in sending american youths to die for a corporate revenue, especially exxon, who caused the now infamous "exxon Valdez" oil spill.
Nuggin writes: Should we critically handicap our own children's in order to drive them out of hy paying jobs and into poverty-yes. um, I dont believe in hanicapping our education of children. After seeing a little of John Stossel's report on how bad our schools are, and hearing stories of american students not even being able to identify Iraq on a map, you dont have to worry about that; The education of our kids is pretty much critically handicapped.
Nuggin writes: Should we completely roll back any taxes on billionares and their heirs-yes the big time, dirty-rotten-filthy-stiknin'-rich (Warrant...) should not get any tax cuts. But when the liberal side quotes so called facts stating that the new tax cuts do so while the conservative side shows supposidly counter facts, then it is impossible for most people to find any truth about the matter. If you are trying to get people who dont believe yours views to think about theirs, then there is a saying that you should remember before trying to do so: "You catch a whole lot more flies with honey than with vigegar." Or in this case, Battery acid Edited by LudoRephaim, : No reason given. "The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4
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LudoRephaim Member (Idle past 5113 days) Posts: 651 From: Jareth's labyrinth Joined: |
Lets take this to a different level. I'll post your hypothetical question, and i'll try to answer to the best of my ability. And Unlike the other person, i will not listen to "Fox Pundits" (which I cant hear anyway. No cable)
Nuggin writes: Me: Hey, Let's talk rationally about gay Marraige. What difference does it make in your life if two people in another state are married to one another? My version of answer: What difference does it make for me and my life? Who cares. I myself dont count as a single person. I care about society, ie our country as a whole. Our nation as a whole counts. I'm against Gay marriage on religious grounds, but who cares about that on here? I personally put homosexuality (which I think is a poor term which should be replaced with something more accurate. Technically, women who love men are "Homosexual" yet are not considered gay)in the same criteria with Beastiality (sex with critters) Necrophilia (sex with the dead) and sex with trees (dedophilia??); Things that make me throw up. But can I do something to stop it?? Nah. I'll just watch some supreme court or president sign Gay marraige into law, and take it like a gay man: in the rear. "The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4
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LudoRephaim Member (Idle past 5113 days) Posts: 651 From: Jareth's labyrinth Joined: |
I stand coreected about the term "homo". Thanks for helping me with that
"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4
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LudoRephaim Member (Idle past 5113 days) Posts: 651 From: Jareth's labyrinth Joined: |
Alieninvader writes: Dont think you'll really have to watch our President sign it into law... Haha, good one No, I dont think ol' dubya will sign it into law (unless he has the hots for Cheney and Rummy.), though a future El presidente might just do so. You never know in a world like ours. "The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4
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LudoRephaim Member (Idle past 5113 days) Posts: 651 From: Jareth's labyrinth Joined: |
Seems I might have hit a sensitive nerve here. I'll do my best to respond to all your data in your post, but I dont have much time.
My personal religious views do not have a bearing on deciding on the laws of the land. As I said, me being one person dont count. Probably among the reasons I gave up voting (though I might do so this year). And as an individual, neither does your personal Religious Beliefs. The boys and girls representing society and special interests do that, as well as the Courts. They decide the laws of the land. Bible supports Slavery: yes and no. It does support the right to own slaves in the Old Testament (specifically the Torah) but I dont recall the New Testament supporting Slavery, although slaves are many times mentioned in it. I'll have to do some research into slavery and the New Testament, but the Old Testament style was for a period of seven years, and if i'm not mistaken it was to pay off a debt. It wasn't the same kind as we had before the Civil War. Besides, we as a Nation actually DO support slavery,, though not in our nation. Just keep those slaves in third world sweatshops making stuff we want and we wont rase a ruckus .... I am being a little satirical here at the last part. I'll find those passages on slavery (OT and NT) and post shortly. Now about that other thingy you said;
Nuggin writes: If you want to argue on behalf of the nation as a whole, let's hear some real points. Well, like I said I dont count. But my reasons for the Nation would be that if you legalize gay marraige, you promote a lifestyle that is Immoral and sickening. But My views reflect Biblical teaching, so I cant use it with others here(remember, my "personal" Religious views should not make national laws, as you stated)So I dont see why I should continue on that part. I dont know any medical websites or political ones that show that Homosexual lifstyles are damamging physically (cause harm)other than one that talked about Gay Bowel Syndrome (GBS), but I'll no doubt be attacked from all sides by those who have an arsenal of counter sites and Net research knowledge that I am definitely without and ignorant of, so it is kinda a waste of time. I'll post the Bio site if you want though. Would it impact my life? Probably not much. I usually coast on by and study the Bible and Bears and so on. Sure, i'll be angry if they legalize it, but what can I do to stop it? VOTE? ROFLMAO hahahahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaa!!!!!!! I cant write much longer. a storm is blowing in. Lateraza Edited by LudoRephaim, : No reason given. "The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4
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LudoRephaim Member (Idle past 5113 days) Posts: 651 From: Jareth's labyrinth Joined: |
New Thread? Where? I've searched and canty find it, much less about this topic or something similar.
"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4
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LudoRephaim Member (Idle past 5113 days) Posts: 651 From: Jareth's labyrinth Joined: |
That interesting thing about your great+great grandfather is interesting. Could you poost his name? Doing so much theological work at college, I might know who he is.
Now about slavery: The Old Testament, as stated by me, you and a few others did allow slavery. The New Testmanet didn't attack the idea , although to take people captive and sell them as slaves is forbidden (1st Timothy 1:10)Slavery was a major part of the society back then, and unless you didn;t want a bloodbath, you didn't call for it's end (Holman Illustrated Bible Dictionary. page 1511)But the Principles of Christ and the Apostles found in the New Testmanet on Human equality later lead to abolition of slavery (see same source, same page) though slavery seems to always be at present and trickles down into history, even in Christian countries (Confederacy, US,) Of course, considering that the New Testament does away with a lot of the aspects of the Law (Galatians), you cant bring it up and say "the Bible is pro-slavery" without getting into what part of the Law applies to Christians and what does not apply at all anymore. Sorry fer gettin off topic there. "The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4
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LudoRephaim Member (Idle past 5113 days) Posts: 651 From: Jareth's labyrinth Joined: |
Thank you MR NWR
"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4
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LudoRephaim Member (Idle past 5113 days) Posts: 651 From: Jareth's labyrinth Joined: |
I'm gettin tired of debating this on here thread, though I will pay a visit possibly to your forum in the proposed topics forum. Dont have much time (or energy) though.
"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4
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