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Topic: Design evidence # 231: taste buds
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Peter
Member (Idle past 1509 days) Posts: 2161 From: Cambridgeshire, UK. Joined: 02-05-2002
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Message 31 of 68 (30525)
01-29-2003 3:56 AM
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Reply to: Message 1 by DanskerMan 01-20-2003 12:21 PM
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Wouldn't natural selection favour the emergence of tastebuds? After all any creature who gains pleasure out of eating will be more motivated to eat than one who doesn't ... and if you can't be bothered to eat you'll have less energy for reproduction and evading predators.
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Peter
Member (Idle past 1509 days) Posts: 2161 From: Cambridgeshire, UK. Joined: 02-05-2002
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Message 32 of 68 (30526)
01-29-2003 3:58 AM
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Reply to: Message 17 by Coragyps 01-20-2003 5:32 PM
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quote: Coragyps say:: So this implies that I should go engage in hot jungle sex with Sandra Bullock and Winona Ryder simultaneously? That would be a wonderful function, and likely would bring me great delight.Somehow, though, Sonnike, I don't think you (or my wife) would approve.
Especially if your wife isn't a dark-eyed brunette
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Peter
Member (Idle past 1509 days) Posts: 2161 From: Cambridgeshire, UK. Joined: 02-05-2002
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Message 34 of 68 (30669)
01-30-2003 6:16 AM
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Reply to: Message 33 by lpetrich 01-29-2003 5:45 AM
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Like brussel sprouts you mean ? [This message has been edited by Peter, 01-30-2003]
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Peter
Member (Idle past 1509 days) Posts: 2161 From: Cambridgeshire, UK. Joined: 02-05-2002
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Message 52 of 68 (32011)
02-12-2003 2:42 AM
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Reply to: Message 35 by John 01-30-2003 10:07 AM
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I remember doing a taste test in biology class ... I couldn't taste it at all ... which from other people's reactions was a good thing. Taste in general, though, is psychological surely? One can accustom oneself to unusuals tastes ... I remember shuddering down a mouthful of my dad's beer as a child, but drink it now and savour the taste ... not entirely a changing of growing up thing there, and there are several food items that I hated a few years ago, but quite like now.
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Peter
Member (Idle past 1509 days) Posts: 2161 From: Cambridgeshire, UK. Joined: 02-05-2002
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Message 55 of 68 (32084)
02-13-2003 2:36 AM
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Reply to: Message 54 by John 02-12-2003 9:13 AM
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quote: quote: Taste in general, though, is psychological surely? Meaning what? That our brains process chemical signals associated with the stuff we eat? And that our brains further associate those chemical signals with stuff we have eaten in the past that did or did not make us sick, throwing in the cultural components to make those associations streatch back many generations?
Our taste-buds and olifactory sensors send signals back to the brain for processing. The brain then makes associations based upon past exposure, cultural acceptance etc. and sends a message representing a degree of acceptance. Have you ever seen programs (they used to do them in the UK) where they take unusual food out on to the street, and say 'Here try this.' People chow down, making 'that's not bad' noises then the presenter says 'hey, that's a sheep's eyeball' or 'bull's testicle' and the people go 'Yuk!!!' and spit out the stuff with a look of revultion. It's a rare person who just goes on munching and saying 'Hmmm ... tastes good anyhow.' Taste is largely psychological.
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Peter
Member (Idle past 1509 days) Posts: 2161 From: Cambridgeshire, UK. Joined: 02-05-2002
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That's what I was getting at really .... it's not a function of the taste or texture etc. that ultimately determines whether or not one likes what one is tasting ... it's psychological and a large part of that is social conditioning and cultural influence. Added as an afetrthought:: A traditional English dish is tripe and onions .... with tripe being cow's intestines, and the scottish love their sheep stomaches stuffed with spicy stuff (hagis) [This message has been edited by Peter, 02-13-2003]
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Peter
Member (Idle past 1509 days) Posts: 2161 From: Cambridgeshire, UK. Joined: 02-05-2002
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Message 59 of 68 (33005)
02-24-2003 1:57 AM
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Reply to: Message 58 by John 02-13-2003 9:22 AM
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I think the way I view it is that the taste-buds simply report 'flavour characteristics' (taste buds can only do salt, sweet, and sour ... or somesuch ... anyhow, a lot of what we call taste includes smell) ... it's the brain that interprets and says yes or no, surely.
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Peter
Member (Idle past 1509 days) Posts: 2161 From: Cambridgeshire, UK. Joined: 02-05-2002
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Message 61 of 68 (33032)
02-24-2003 7:54 AM
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Reply to: Message 60 by Gzus 02-24-2003 6:23 AM
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There's no positive evidence for it.
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Peter
Member (Idle past 1509 days) Posts: 2161 From: Cambridgeshire, UK. Joined: 02-05-2002
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Message 63 of 68 (33040)
02-24-2003 8:42 AM
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Reply to: Message 62 by Gzus 02-24-2003 8:23 AM
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Strange attitude for one who chooses to participate in this debate ... but the smiley did mean I wasn't serious. Also ... is there a way to delete reply waiting's without just responding for the sake of it
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Peter
Member (Idle past 1509 days) Posts: 2161 From: Cambridgeshire, UK. Joined: 02-05-2002
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Message 66 of 68 (33093)
02-24-2003 5:20 PM
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Reply to: Message 64 by Admin 02-24-2003 11:14 AM
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Re: Replies Await Issue
I guess that didn't include me as an extra person ... but this way I get rid of the 'yes' in the meantime
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Peter
Member (Idle past 1509 days) Posts: 2161 From: Cambridgeshire, UK. Joined: 02-05-2002
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Message 68 of 68 (33100)
02-24-2003 5:38 PM
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Reply to: Message 67 by Percy 02-24-2003 5:35 PM
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Re: I am such a stinker...
DOH!!
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