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Author Topic:   General discussion of moderation procedures - Part 7
iano
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Message 91 of 304 (329051)
07-05-2006 6:22 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by pink sasquatch
07-05-2006 6:17 PM


Re: Showcase access?
Active engagment has IMHO, been somewhat less than forthcoming. The gay abandon with which discussion has been generally entered in upon (in this posters experience) has been all but mute in Showcase.
One of Johns demands (and it seems a reasonable one to me) is to have a persons identity revealed. Bye Bye PK...Hello...?

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jar
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Message 92 of 304 (329052)
07-05-2006 6:22 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by pink sasquatch
07-05-2006 6:10 PM


Re: Showcase access?
Go to Message 1 and ask Percy to give you access to the Showcase.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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iano
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Message 93 of 304 (329057)
07-05-2006 6:51 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by CK
07-05-2006 6:20 PM


Re: Oh Johnny Boy...the pipes, the pipes are calling
First of all even the peer-reviewed journals have a pecking order (which your academic insituation will take in account when they assess your publication record and so will places when you apply for a job).
I see a vicious circle coming up here. There is thus no means by which one can circumvent the establishment (if one exists) and no way to show there is no establishment. Hmmm
The second important element is the amounts of cititations your papers get - if nobody cites you - well generally there is a reason for that.
Which could vary depending on all sorts of things, nothing of which has to do with the science involved.
As for fear - you have to remember that JAD has been knocking around and been banned from virtually every significant evolution-type forum going and here a number of times
Define 'significant' in some non self-fulfilling prophecy manner. I'm sure some of the lumninaries here have debated him in the past. Neither do I cast aside their reticence - I have seen the worst of John. But the sheer silence from those once so authoritative on the issue in general forum strikes me as remarkable. Truly remarkable.
Edited by AdminJar, : not a discussion thread

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AdminJar
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Message 94 of 304 (329058)
07-05-2006 7:02 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by iano
07-05-2006 6:51 PM


CK, iano and everyone else.
This is for a discussion of moderating procedures. Unless you have something related to moderating procedures, take it somewhere else.

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iano
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Message 95 of 304 (329059)
07-05-2006 7:04 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by AdminJar
07-05-2006 7:02 PM


Re: CK, iano and everyone else.
Sorry Jar. Fair point.

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CK
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Message 96 of 304 (329068)
07-05-2006 7:42 PM


Ban this vile scum
http://EvC Forum: Will I see Hitler in heaven? -->EvC Forum: Will I see Hitler in heaven?
Disgusting - surely such racist crap require an immediate and total ban.
Edited by CK, : No reason given.

Brian
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Message 97 of 304 (329368)
07-06-2006 12:24 PM


Critic's ban
On the advice of Admin NWR I have moved this message.
After thinking a lot about The Critic's message, I have come to the conclusion that his lifetime suspension is unwarranted.
The fact that he is a complete dick shouldn't mean that he gets a ban for his beliefs.
If he sincerely believes these reasons then why should he get banned just because it makes us normal folk feel physically sick?
One of the aims of EvC is to educate people, and I think the Critic really needs to be educated, especially on his knowledge of the Bible.
His views are repulsive yes, and I have heard this justified punishment of the Jews argument from Christians before (not many I must add), but just because we think he has gross beliefs, and who is to say he isn't accurate, we shouldn't ban him any more than Iano should be banned for being a bigot. It is just the way they are, incomprehensible stances for normal people to comprehend, but they are entitled to them.
Brian.

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deerbreh
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Message 98 of 304 (329370)
07-06-2006 12:25 PM


Fossil ID Thread
After some reflection I think I must respectfully disagree with AdminNosy's judgement that my post # 6 in the fossil ID thread was off topic. At the time I held my counsel to see how the thread would progress but I was suspicious as to how things were going to go and my suspicians were confirmed. In light of the direction the thread has taken I think we would have been better off having Faith respond to my post and tell us how the Flood could have sorted the fossils in the geological column. Just my opinion.

pink sasquatch
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Message 99 of 304 (329396)
07-06-2006 1:58 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by Brian
07-06-2006 12:24 PM


Re: Critic's ban
I have to second Brian's conclusion.
The Critic's statement, though not eloquent, was essentially that the Judeo-Christian God is a wrathful God. Are we now to ban everyone who has claimed such?
What about all those who have made brazenly anti-homosexual comments?
Bigotry is almost always the result of ignorance, ignorance that seems more likely to persist given exclusion from intelligent discussion.

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deerbreh
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Message 100 of 304 (329405)
07-06-2006 2:12 PM


Now I am confused.
I responded to a post by Faith on the Fossil ID thread and then I removed it because I realized it could be considered a response to an off topic post and we had a specific warning about that in the thread. Then I saw that Faith responded to the point in my post in her Admin mode. Somehow that doesn't seem kosher. Can someone clear this up for me? Is it proper for someone to respond to the point being made in a post in the Admin mode?

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CK
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Message 101 of 304 (329406)
07-06-2006 2:14 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by deerbreh
07-06-2006 2:12 PM


Re: Now I am confused.
Faith is currently suspended and accidently seems to have posted in admin mode.

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AdminFaith
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Message 102 of 304 (329407)
07-06-2006 2:16 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by deerbreh
07-06-2006 2:12 PM


Re: Now I am confused.
I had no intention of posting as admin. It occurred by default, and I was unable to get out of that mode, AND I wrote a note to that effect on the post.
The cause turns out to be that Faith is suspended for answering all the objections to my contention that the facts are hard to come by. Seems to me the whole lot of you should be suspended if I am.
This is also in admin mode. Sorry, and I'm leaving now.

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AdminJar
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Message 103 of 304 (329408)
07-06-2006 2:22 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by deerbreh
07-06-2006 2:12 PM


Re: Now I am confused.
Yes, it was a simple mistake.
User Faith has been suspended. She did not see the suspension and so replied.
Unfortunately one of the things about our Admin accounts is that they are linked to our regular account. That lets us do things like editing message for formating or to insert Off Topic notices without loging out and back in.
In this case she had not seen the suspension notice and responded. The software simply used the Admin account.
No harm, no foul.

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deerbreh
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Message 104 of 304 (329410)
07-06-2006 2:26 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by AdminJar
07-06-2006 2:22 PM


Re: Now I am confused.
Ok. Thanks AdminJar. No problem Faith.

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Admin
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Message 105 of 304 (329411)
07-06-2006 2:31 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by AdminFaith
07-06-2006 2:16 PM


Re: Now I am confused.
Hi Faith,
Let me address your concerns and put your mind at rest.
Faith writes:
The cause turns out to be that Faith is suspended for answering all the objections to my contention that the facts are hard to come by. Seems to me the whole lot of you should be suspended if I am.
My actions were in this order:
  1. I read the thread, and while reading suspended two members for Forum Guidelines violations against you, Crashfrog and Mangy Tiger.
  2. I issued a warning about topic drift in Message 39, and I added this:
    Admin writes:
    If you posted a message after this one that is off topic, then please go back and fix it before I see it.
  3. I saw your Message 42 addressing the off-topic issues. I regretted having to take the action, but I could see no way to avoid it given the previous clear warning. You are the only one so far who posted off-topic after the warning.

--Percy
EvC Forum Director

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