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Nuggin
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Message 1 of 106 (325252)
06-23-2006 10:21 AM


So, we've been round and round on the topic of Biblical literalism. But here's a new point of discussion.
If someone were to add a new chapter to the Bible, one which had not existed in any previous versions. Would it be accepted by the literalists as true?
What if it "sounded like something Jesus would say"?
Keep in mind, I'm not asking if you would accept the message as a spiritual teaching. Let's all assume that the message is valid and Christ-like. That no one doubts that it something that Jesus would have taught, had he thought to teach it.
What I am asking is very specifically this:
Would the brand new chapter in the Bible become retroactively literally true?

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Nuggin
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Message 7 of 106 (326168)
06-25-2006 5:46 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by rgb
06-24-2006 6:03 PM


Not sure I understand your point of view
Read through your post a few times, and, honestly I've been vacant from the board for a while, so I'm a little sketchy on who's in favor of what any more.
It sounds like you are saying that new teachings can't be verified as being Christ-like since they wouldn't be coming from Christ, and therefore should not be put into the Bible and held up as the word of God.
That I understand.
But are you suggesting that what is in the Bible is therefore the actually teachings of Christ?
In short, are you a literalist? Or, like someone who posted before you, do you think that the Bible is an ongoing work constantly being updated and changed?
And, if the later, how do you reconcile not wanting to add new stuff to the Bible after so much has already been added/deleted/changed over the years?

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Nuggin
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Message 8 of 106 (326169)
06-25-2006 5:48 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by arachnophilia
06-24-2006 5:40 PM


Fundies believe in No Christ but My Christ
I agree that Fundies don't hold the Book of Mormon as scripture, but at what point do we play the numbers game.
Mormon's will soon (if they don't already) out number the Fundimentalists.
Do we say, "This is the Bible, and it means X" simply because a single minority of religeous opinions says so? I don't think so.

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Nuggin
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Message 12 of 106 (326768)
06-27-2006 9:35 AM
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06-25-2006 7:54 PM


Re: Not sure I understand your point of view
If you want to add anything to the bible, you'd have to do it over the Pope's dead body.
Which Pope? 99% of them are already dead.

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Nuggin
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Message 13 of 106 (326770)
06-27-2006 9:40 AM


Let he who without edit, make the first add
So, let's get down to the nitty-gritty here.
Up until about 1,000 years ago, no version of the Bible included the passage about the stoning. ("Let he who is without sin throw the first stone, etc.)
During the 1,000 years before it's spontaneous appearence in the Holy and Unchanging Bible which was written by men directed by God so they can't possibly have made any mistakes, no Biblical scholar made any mention of the passage. So it's safe to assume that there isn't some Biblical Missing-Link that we just haven't recovered.
Basically, 1,000 years ago someone said -- "Hey, this sounds like something Jesus would say." and added to the Bible. At that point it went immediately from "Something Jesus would say" to "Something Jesus DID say."
That's 1 account of an addition. How many more are they? How many deletions? How many more additions are to come?

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