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ramoss
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Message 76 of 126 (323015)
06-18-2006 7:47 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by Buzsaw
06-16-2006 10:41 PM


Re: Bob Cornuke and Rob Wyatt Cranksterism
1. Nobody has successfully debunked the Wyatt site perse yet, though there are debatable Wyatt specifics about things studied at the site which would likely be the case no matter who discovered it.
The Wyatt site makes a lot of claims, yet, provides no evidence for those claims.
For example, no one can view the "ark of covenent" , no one has been able to look at the 'wheel' that wsa from the parting of the red sea.
Frankly.. if the evidence for the claims can not be produced, the claims are false.

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Buzsaw
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Message 77 of 126 (323060)
06-18-2006 10:46 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by jar
06-18-2006 10:04 AM


Re: So on a new day ...
Ron Wyatt who has been deceased for some time was only the one who pioneered the discovery of both the ark site and the Neweiba crossing. It was Moller and others who did the Exodus research with more scientific expertise and equipment. You seem to be forgetting that. You have a long, long way to go before you can claim emperical falsification of every single thing. You're being blatantly boastful.

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Buzsaw
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Message 78 of 126 (323064)
06-18-2006 10:53 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by DP
06-18-2006 6:26 PM


Re: The Kasich Fox News Concensus
Thanks much, DP for the rundown. It appears that i didn't miss much.

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jar
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Message 79 of 126 (323065)
06-18-2006 10:55 PM
Reply to: Message 77 by Buzsaw
06-18-2006 10:46 PM


Re: So on a new day ...
It's easy to test Buz. Start a thread and present one piece of evidence that you believe can be supported, just one piece, any piece. The others can post the evidence that refutes it.
If you really think ANY of Ron's claims can be supported, here is your chance to present the best possible case for it.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Buzsaw
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Message 80 of 126 (323068)
06-18-2006 10:59 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by ramoss
06-18-2006 7:47 PM


Re: Viewing the Evidence
ramos writes:
For example, no one can view the "ark of covenent" , no one has been able to look at the 'wheel' that wsa from the parting of the red sea.
Frankly.. if the evidence for the claims can not be produced, the claims are false.
Evidence was produced. You can view the Exodus video which shows evidence of coral crusted objects shaped like chariot wheels and axles. You can view the ark site and ballast stones in the Ararat foothills. You can view the beach and geographical stuff which is corroborating evidence et al. On and on I could go but this is not the thread for that.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 81 of 126 (323072)
06-18-2006 11:11 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by jar
06-18-2006 10:55 PM


Re: So on a new day ...
Better yet Jar, open a thread and prove you have imperically falsified every single bit of evidence. For that matter simply show that you have imperically falsified the research of Moller and others at Neweiba and the region to the status of myth. LOL!

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 82 of 126 (323074)
06-18-2006 11:12 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by jar
06-18-2006 10:55 PM


Re: So on a new day ...
Better yet Jar, open a thread and prove you have imperically falsified every single bit of evidence. For that matter simply show that you have imperically falsified the research of Moller and others at Neweiba and the region to the status of myth. LOL!

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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jar
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Message 83 of 126 (323077)
06-18-2006 11:33 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by ramoss
06-18-2006 7:47 PM


Re: Bob Cornuke and Rob Wyatt Cranksterism
The Wyatt site makes a lot of claims, yet, provides no evidence for those claims.
it is worse than that. We have had members here that actually work for Wyatt's Medicine Show and begged them to provide evidence, and not one has been able to do so. The person that runs their forum is a member here and we have begged him to produce evidence and he has not done so. We have members here that believe in the Snake Oil that the Wyatt organization and others sell, and we have begged them to produce evidence, and they have not.
If there really was anything, I would imagine they would be able to present some evidence, even ONE piece of evidence that would stand up to examination, but that does not seem to be the case.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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RickJB
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Message 84 of 126 (323094)
06-19-2006 2:03 AM
Reply to: Message 82 by Buzsaw
06-18-2006 11:12 PM


Re: So on a new day ...
The burden of proof is on you, Buz.
Why not just start a thread with evidence instead of repeatedly sniping and LOLing at Jar in post after post?
Edited by RickJB, : No reason given.

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CK
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Message 85 of 126 (323098)
06-19-2006 2:26 AM
Reply to: Message 80 by Buzsaw
06-18-2006 10:59 PM


Re: Viewing the Evidence
buzz writes:
Evidence was produced. You can view the Exodus video which shows..
whatever the person editting the video wants it to show...
Edited by CK, : fixed italic tag.

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PaulK
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Message 86 of 126 (323100)
06-19-2006 2:37 AM
Reply to: Message 80 by Buzsaw
06-18-2006 10:59 PM


Re: Viewing the Evidence
We have pictures of coral formations that might contain wheels and axles - whether they really contina anything is not known. The only hint that they contain anything was a claim from the Wyatt camp of rust. Which would not be the case if they contained Ancient Egyptian chariot wheels because they did not use iron in their wheels.
The "ark site" is a rock formation, as even creationist invetigators admit. The so-called ballast stones have no demonstrabel connection with the Ark. And a beach is just a beach.
If these are the best you have to offer, then you have nothing. The evidence that Wyatt is a fraud is better. The evidence that Wyatt and Moeller are incompetent is far better.h

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ramoss
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Message 87 of 126 (323155)
06-19-2006 8:33 AM
Reply to: Message 80 by Buzsaw
06-18-2006 10:59 PM


Re: Viewing the Evidence
I am from Missouri, show me.
Show me one article from a peer reviewed archelogical journal that analysis ANY of the 'evidence' found.

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MUTTY6969
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Message 88 of 126 (323753)
06-20-2006 7:11 AM
Reply to: Message 80 by Buzsaw
06-18-2006 10:59 PM


Re: Viewing the Evidence
The evidence is lacking . I’ve tried in theBlood of Jesus forum
to get more evidence to back up these claims or at least rebuttals to the claims I made about Ron Wyatt’s findings and as with Lennart Moller,
A Review of The Exodus Revealed
they seem to be more interested in making money off the gullible public than promoting the truth.
Edited by MUTTY6969, : fixing link

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Brian
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Message 89 of 126 (323766)
06-20-2006 7:41 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by Buzsaw
06-17-2006 12:20 AM


GD Wyatt's Aqaba
Hey Buz,
I'd be happy to have a GD with you about the Wyatt and/or Moller Aqaba crossing and Chariot wheel 'find' if you feel like it.
Let me know and I'll construct an OP.
Cheers.
Brian.

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Buzsaw
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Message 90 of 126 (324150)
06-20-2006 11:22 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by ramoss
06-19-2006 8:33 AM


Re: Viewing the Evidence
As I have stated before, secularists seem to have no interest or desire in searching and researching the Nuweiba crossing, the wheels or any of the corroborating stuff in the region. So it's not in the reveiws to my knowledge. You tell me why they aren't in there debunking Moeller. Where is Geographic's Ballard when he's needed?? LOL on that. Verifying it might upset the whole secularist applecart. Perhaps one of them will go in there and destroy the evidence, but it's unlikely they could get it all. Evidence of the wheels was found on both shores by two different researchers, one a Norwegian woman on the east side and Moeller of Sweden on the west.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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