An invitation for jar to discuss his ideas further.

I don't see any real difference between the two quotes you included or what either of them has to do with the issue of whether there was a Fall.One of the other Admins might see a topic in here but as it stands I don't see what else I might have to contribute.

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And now you bring in yet another topic, "such as the claim that there will be more atheists in heaven than Christians for example".That is why I would not consider the topic for promotion. As I said in my response to you there was no connection between the quotes you included and the Fall. The quotes are on the origin of the Genesis stories and their general purpose, the Fall is one item found in some of the Genesis accounts but not others and now you add the idea of who is saved.Try editing the OP and see if you can put together one idea. Then I or some other Admin can see if it's promotable.

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