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MangyTiger Member (Idle past 6384 days) Posts: 989 From: Leicester, UK Joined: |
God's True Flock are not to be found in prison! Along with people who put salt on their porridge. I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3959 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
or chuck colson.
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ReverendDG Member (Idle past 4141 days) Posts: 1119 From: Topeka,kansas Joined: |
I love this. so you are now the definer of what makes a religion "true"?
s and other assorted riff-raff are sinners and are not exempt from prison
but acording to christianity, everyone is a sinner regardless, so yes they could be found in prisonacording to the religion you don't make the rules god does, you are judging and arn't christians not supposed to judge? This message has been edited by ReverendDG, 04-09-2006 05:28 PM One mans herecy is another Mans dogma..
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Discreet Label Member (Idle past 5094 days) Posts: 272 Joined: |
Privatization of the school system is a bad idea. Privatization works only if there is enough population to support it. And right there is a problem with privatization is that it can only serve places that actually have the population to support privatization, your basically suggesting cutting off 40%ish (the aproximate amount left in rural US) of the United States to access to professional and certified teachers. Every small town in this country would be without a school or if it had a school it would be 'noncompetitive' because it would have a geographic monopoly that does not allow for competition.
Privatization of education would work in a population dense place like the UK because nearl every school would be easily accessible by any person interested in attending, or like the coast of china where there are an incredibly large number of people, or in india. The US is to spread out geographically to feasibly maintain a system of privatized schooling that would give every child a chance at an education.
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SuperNintendo Chalmers Member (Idle past 5865 days) Posts: 772 From: Bartlett, IL, USA Joined: |
I disagree with everything you said except about teaching Euclidean v. nonEuclidean geometry -- only because I don't know anything about it.
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redseal Inactive Member |
I love this. so you are now the definer of what makes a religion "true"?
NO! It is the Lord God Almighty who, in His Wisdom, has defined what is Truth.
but acording to christianity, everyone is a sinner regardless, so yes they could be found in prison You would do well to contemplate the Lord's Word, and not the word of liberals, false Christians, feminists and the multitudes who have succumbed to the wiles of Satan! God tells us that we are not to judge according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment. Indeed, we of the Lord's Flock wear the breastplate of righteousness and exhort will all such long-suffering and doctrine!
acording to the religion you don't make the rules god does, you are judging and arn't christians not supposed to judge? This message has been edited by AdminPD, 04-10-2006 05:41 AM
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5226 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
redeal,
Keep the preaching for the church, mate. It impresses no-one here. Mark There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't
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whiskeyjack Inactive Member |
This is why Christians want to leave the public schools, because as a matter of fact other people's beliefs ARE taught to their children there. Other religions are presented to them, and the "religion of secularism" is taught implicitly, and their Christian moral standards are undermined. Secularism is not a religion! Maybe I have not made myself clear in posts 33. I should have said that I think every child’s education should not include indoctrination of other peoples’ beliefs - after all they have a freedom to practice whichever religion they choose, a freedom which is practically impossible for them to exercise if they have been indoctrinated at a young vulnerable age when they should have been receiving an education provided by the state (which should be separate from church).
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ThingsChange Member (Idle past 5957 days) Posts: 315 From: Houston, Tejas (Mexican Colony) Joined: |
quote:I did not say privatize the education system. I said give the parents a choice where to spend some of their tax money. For example: If the tax dollars for education are $16K per child, as in Washington DC, then let the government keep $4K for overhead shared costs for "the public good" and allow the parents $12K to spend as a voucher for either public or private schooling (including offsetting home school expenses for materials and standardized testing).
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ThingsChange Member (Idle past 5957 days) Posts: 315 From: Houston, Tejas (Mexican Colony) Joined: |
quote: There is still news oriented to investigative journalism. The problem is and has always been:1. The choice of events to investigate & present as the news 2. Selective facts and hearsay to present for the story chosen 3. The wording of the headlines (for sound-bite readers/listeners) 4. The choice of words to describe the people and the events (example: using "right-wing" as a prefix) Walter Cronkite was never neutral.
quote: Good joke. Don't let the low monotone voices fool you. They are hardly non-biased. See the list above.
quote:Nonsense about your claim as "conservative". All you need to do to disprove your statement is to listen to Rush Limbaugh and see what the news people did not report, or how biased they were in reporting it. Regardless of what you may think of him, Rush does a good job of exposing media bias. AdminPD: Edit to make quote box functional. This message has been edited by AdminPD, 04-10-2006 10:04 AM
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ThingsChange Member (Idle past 5957 days) Posts: 315 From: Houston, Tejas (Mexican Colony) Joined: |
quote: Nwr, nice attempt at spin.But, it is you who are pushing an ideology, since you promote a single source education instead of choice and competition. You hardly have the best interests of the children in mind when you want to force them into an inferior education system (and an environment of social ills in a number of cases). quote: You advocate bureaucracy when you advocate the public school system.
quote:Actually, that is a good practice. Imagine if colleges did not have the same right. If you give parents a choice, then if they did a good job with their kids, they can enroll them in a good environment for learning. For kids who need special education, some specialized schools can help. For parents whose kids are a negative influence, they can remain in public schools where they (and we as voters) can figure out how to deal with them.
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ThingsChange Member (Idle past 5957 days) Posts: 315 From: Houston, Tejas (Mexican Colony) Joined: |
Time to turn the table.
What is your source of information that faith-based schools produce worse kids than public education? (since you want to establish a blanket national policy) quote:No, since that is not the metric for a faith-based schools debate, which is the topic here. You should find that a smaller percentage of students who attended faith-based schools go to prison than the same metric for prisoners who attended public schools.
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SuperNintendo Chalmers Member (Idle past 5865 days) Posts: 772 From: Bartlett, IL, USA Joined: |
Nonsense about your claim as "conservative". All you need to do to disprove your statement is to listen to Rush Limbaugh and see what the news people did not report, or how biased they were in reporting it. Regardless of what you may think of him, Rush does a good job of exposing media bias. Wow, do you really believe the BS you are spouting? Limbaugh? Is that a joke? Fox News has been shown by several studies to be the most inaccurate of the major news outlets (I believe CBS was the second worst). Conversely, NPR is BY FAR the most accurate of the major news services). BBC is another example of a very accurate news source. If you believe Fox News is anything more than BS infotainment I feel very, very bad for you....... Because that means your BS detector really is totally broken. It really reflects poorly on your critical thinking skills.. BUT, critical thinking is something you can practice... I encourage you to spend some time on news.google.com reading news from many different perspectives.
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SuperNintendo Chalmers Member (Idle past 5865 days) Posts: 772 From: Bartlett, IL, USA Joined: |
You hardly have the best interests of the children in mind when you want to force them into an inferior education system (and an environment of social ills in a number of cases). Page not found - Rethinking Schools
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SuperNintendo Chalmers Member (Idle past 5865 days) Posts: 772 From: Bartlett, IL, USA Joined: |
From:
http://www.news.uiuc.edu/NEWS/06/0123lubienski.html
Contrary to common wisdom, public schools score higher in math than private ones AND
The Lubienskis thought the gaps between regular public schools and conservative Christian schools were especially significant for any discussion about school choice. “Assumptions that academic quality will be driven by parental choice need to be re-examined in view of the fact that conservative Christian schools, the fastest growing segment of the private school market, were also the lowest performing,” they wrote in their summary of the research.
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