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Author Topic:   How do you know truth?
nator
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Message 55 of 114 (27201)
12-18-2002 9:55 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Quetzal
12-09-2002 4:06 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Quetzal:
I'm also a tad curious - not for John's take on it, but for others. What is "truth" as you understand it? Second, related question, "Why is it important to seek it?" IOW, what is this concept that everyone seems so hot and bothered about seeking?
Most theists of whatever stripe seem know what truth is, so I'd be interested in hearing what they think.
Most non-theists of whatever stripe seem to agree they don't know what it is. Some claim to be seeking it, some argue there isn't any such thing. Some claim that it's an unapproachable ideal.
So what is it?

I don't know what truth is.

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nator
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From: Ann Arbor
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Message 107 of 114 (29255)
01-16-2003 8:34 AM
Reply to: Message 62 by forgiven
12-18-2002 9:32 PM


quote:
Originally posted by forgiven:
quote:
Originally posted by schrafinator:
I don't know what truth is.
refreshing... i know you hate reading this schraf, but you can know not only what truth is, but the author of that truth... but you have to want to, and from my experience the desire has to be real

Why do you think you know the truth, and why should I believe you?

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nator
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Message 109 of 114 (29657)
01-20-2003 9:32 AM
Reply to: Message 108 by judge
01-19-2003 7:43 PM


quote:
Originally posted by judge:
We know truth only by referring to an infallible authority.
As Gods knowledge is exhaustive He is an infallible authority.
Therefore we can know the truth "analogously", by "thinking Gods thoughts after Him".

How do you know you are "thinking God's thoughts"?
How do you know that the God you believe in is infallible?
(I mean, in the OT, God has to come down to earth a couple of times to find out what is going on, and he is tempted several times. Add to that the fact that he screwed up making the world so bad that he had to kill and destroy every living and non-living thing and start over, it doesn't make one very confident that the God of the Bible is all-knowing and infallible in the least.)
[This message has been edited by schrafinator, 01-20-2003]

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nator
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Message 111 of 114 (29749)
01-21-2003 8:29 AM
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01-21-2003 3:43 AM


Well, in other words, you believe it, and that's about it.
So, am I to take it that you are not particularly attached to the Bible?

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nator
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Message 113 of 114 (30016)
01-23-2003 8:25 AM
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01-22-2003 4:51 AM


Well, alright then.

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