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SuperNintendo Chalmers Member (Idle past 6088 days) Posts: 772 From: Bartlett, IL, USA Joined: |
I was watching some energy and mass interchange in my back yard and the idea that sunlight made it possible for me to see led me to E=mc**2 acutally evopeach I'm pretty sure that one of the things Einstein was trying to explain was the observed curvature of light. So yes, the theory of general relativity came about due to observatiions that clashed with newtonian mechanics.
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Evopeach Member (Idle past 6868 days) Posts: 224 From: Stroud, OK USA Joined: |
The curvature of light by gravitation/mass was not shown or even possible to observe in an experimental setting until years after he published the prediction when the perihelian og Mercuty could be observed and analyzed in detail.
Nice try but no banana.
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Evopeach Member (Idle past 6868 days) Posts: 224 From: Stroud, OK USA Joined: |
Which includes the defeated pseudo-scientists (alias for evolutionists) he debated for thirty years prior to his retirement.
Einstein spent less than 5%of his worklife in a lab and Hawkings even less yet they are considered 1st class scientists... theoretical physicists. Gish read prodigiously, maintained his scientific societal memberships and wrote a number of books on his views all with impeccible footnotes and references. The CRSQ web site is easily searched for peer reviewed Creationist rResearch papers and projects and that is up to you.
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SuperNintendo Chalmers Member (Idle past 6088 days) Posts: 772 From: Bartlett, IL, USA Joined: |
Actually I found out that Einstein based his theory on a MUCH simpler observation: That all motion is relative.
If a body next to you appears to be in motion, it could be you are still (in the larger picture this is rather a remote possibility) and the other is moving, or it is still and you are moving, or (the usual case) you are both in motion; thus, all motion is relative. http://www.blupete.com/...e/Biographies/Science/Einstein.htm
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nator Member (Idle past 2424 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: If Gish's scientific evidence was so incredibly damning to Biology, then why didn't he publish his incredible evidence in the professional journals annonymously? If he had some revolutionary new scientific theory that had turned what we thought we knew about Biology, Genetics, and Biochemistry on its head, why didn't he use all of the donation money he got from supporters and do the research which would validate it? Real scientists don't spend their time lying in order to gain religious converts using dishonest tactics. For just one of many examples consider that Gish repeated false claims for years regarding the bombadier beetle even after being literally shown, in public, that his claims were false.
quote: No shit, theoretical physicists spend little time in the lab. They don't do lab work at all. Biochemists, however, do most of their work in labs. How come Gish left the lab decades ago if he really wanted to contribute to science? (Also, it's "Hawking", not "Hawkings").
quote: Irrelevant.
quote: Irrelevant. You pay a membership fee for most of them. If I wanted to use my past credentials to influence gullible people to believe I had some kind of scientisfic standing, I'd maintain them too.
quote: You say that as if getting the footnotes and references right in a book that one has written is some kind of major accomplishment instead of the bare basic standard that any undergraduate should be able to do. That Gish is notable among Creationists for managing this minor task speaks volumes for the usual level of scholarship among these authors as a group. This points up another aspect of why these footnotes and references are so often absent from such books, and why we know that Gish stopped using any scientific rigor in his work long ago. When one goes to the trouble to look up the references and footnotes in Gish's books, one can quite frequently discover that he has misunderstood the source material or misquoted it. This message has been edited by schrafinator, 02-17-2006 05:26 PM
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ramoss Member (Idle past 866 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
And with incredible lies and misinformation too.
For example, Gish still uses the 'footprints' at paluxy river, even though it has been demonstrated to be totally and absolutely false. It is so false that even "Answers in Genesis" says not to use it. His booklet still claims that the 'precambian' is void of fossils, yet, that has been proven to be totally false. Gish admits that the 'moon dust' arguement is wrong, yet, still includes that in the pamphlets he is selling. This is patently false. The Institute of Creation research is still been pushing the falsifiedconcept of the magnetic field degrading. So many inaccuracies.. so little time. .. and not only that, inaccuracies that keep on being repeated long after the evidence is presented that it is wrong..
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Evopeach Member (Idle past 6868 days) Posts: 224 From: Stroud, OK USA Joined: |
I thought profanity was a no-no at this forum... I guess that only applies to the intelleigent, rational and logical posts.. that leaves you out.
Gish made a conscious decision based on convictions to use his gifts in a second career. That hardly obviates his previous contributions, intellect, prowess or work product. What of significance did Einstein puiblish in any peer reviewed journal after 1940... little if anything of consequence. Did that make him a fraud,liar,miscreant and useless pseudo scientist? You logic is laughable.
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Evopeach Member (Idle past 6868 days) Posts: 224 From: Stroud, OK USA Joined: |
First of all you are a liar and ill informed concerning the footprint deal which was recanted twenty years ago publically by the entire ICR staff.
Second the moom dust article is old hat and not in any new material that I am aware of. Third the precambrian includes the 600 million years of no fossil evidence preceeding the complex invertebrates. If you think mud trails without a single organic molecule constitute fossil evidence for precambrian life leading up to say a mollusk, a sponge or a trilobyte have at it. Not one of these so called supposed fossils has any ancestral relationship to the complex invertebrates. They are isolated and apart from the cambrian fossils having no possible evolutionary connection. Desperation is the last bastion of ignorance.
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AdminOmni Inactive Member |
I thought profanity was a no-no at this forum... I guess that only applies to the intelleigent, rational and logical posts.. that leaves you out. Largely, yes, though plain old Anglo-Saxon words like shit are not that problematic. Name-calling and ad hominem attacks are also no-no's, Evopeach, but you have enjoyed a broad exemption from enforcement so that your minority view can be heard. Approximately 50% of your posts consist of scorn and ridicule. Why don't you demonstrate the higher ground on which you claim to stand? This message has been edited by AdminOmni, 02-17-2006 06:42 PM Comments on moderation procedures (or wish to respond to admin messages)? - Go to: New Members: to get an understanding of what makes great posts, check out: Trust me.
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9012 From: Canada Joined: |
Third the precambrian includes the 600 million years of no fossil evidence preceeding the complex invertebrates. If you think mud trails without a single organic molecule constitute fossil evidence for precambrian life leading up to say a mollusk, a sponge or a trilobyte have at it. A statement based on your ignorance. Which makes :
Desperation is the last bastion of ignorance. That much more amusing. Evopeach, you need to get something very clear. We know that you have pretty much no *clue* what you are talking about. You know nothing about the subjects being discussed. You make pronouncements about "fact" but don't actually know a darned thing.
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Evopeach Member (Idle past 6868 days) Posts: 224 From: Stroud, OK USA Joined: |
Your assertions and ad hominems mean nothing to someone who hs been studying this subject since 1974. Of couse you could provide some evidentiary staements and then you could elevate your credibility above pure sophistry.
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ramoss Member (Idle past 866 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
No, I am not a liar.
From what I see, the Moon dust arguement was used recently by people who pointed to the IRC. An article current on their web site isThe Institute for Creation Research (Hum.. do you really know what they say) THe precamion DOES have fossil evidnece in it. No, it is not complex inevertibrates, but no one said it is. The ICR said NO fossil evidence, and that is a plain lie. The IRC lies and misrepresnts many many things. I mean, they are still using the magnetic field lie(see The Institute for Creation Research) And, as for the footprints, they don't admit it was wrong, but they will admit that 'it is improper to use it at this time'. They also imply a 'conspiracy' to show it isn't valid. The Institute for Creation Research
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