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Who's afraid of a godless universe?

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JavaMan
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02-16-2006 3:45 AM

Many people feel that a godless universe would be a frightening place, vast, amoral and empty of meaning.
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Others, including myself, would find a universe ruled by an all-powerful God much more unsettling, especially if that God were the despotic tyrant that Iano, amongst others here, seems to believe in.
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So my question is:
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Which would you find more scary, a universe without a god, or one ruled over by an all-powerful God?
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This message has been edited by JavaMan, 02-18-2006 01:39 PM
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02-17-2006 9:39 AM 		Reply to: Message 1 by JavaMan
02-16-2006 3:45 AM

Flesh it out a bit?
Hi, JavaMan.
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Your PNT seems a bit sketchy.
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Maybe you could take a position and provide some reasoning for it. Your position is implied by your terms--perhaps you could make it explicit and provide supportive reasoning?
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Alternatively, you might outline some consequences for both possibilities.
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    Trust me.
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    Message 3 of 8 (287592)
    02-17-2006 10:27 AM     		Reply to: Message 1 by JavaMan
    02-16-2006 3:45 AM

    I fear that some admin might promote a PNT with a really crappy topic title
    Despite abundant evidence to the contrary, we do like to have topic title that actually give a bit of information about the topic theme. Change it to something that really means something, via editing message 1. Do what AdminOmni said also.
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    02-17-2006 11:52 AM     		Reply to: Message 1 by JavaMan
    02-16-2006 3:45 AM

    Adding my $0.02
    It isn't as if there are two universes out there, one with no God, the other with a despot - and we get to choose which one we join.
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    We are stuck in the universe we are in. We can't make that choice. So I don't understand what is to be debated here.
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    As AdminOmni suggested, you need to clarify the topic.
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    Message 5 of 8 (288003)
    02-18-2006 3:08 AM     		Reply to: Message 4 by AdminNWR
    02-17-2006 11:52 AM

    A BIG Scary unknown!
    Three basic roads here.
    1) Good God
    a) Personl
    b)non-personal
    2) Bad God(Tyrant)
    a) We are grasshoppers in a flame, squirming to survive
    b) We have been abandoned to our own fate.
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    3) No God. Just a humongous universe that is bigger than our dustspeck of a planet can handle.
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    Which way do you wanna go? Push EDIT on your opening post and rewrite it according to the guidelines of the admins who posted above.
    Get back to us with final revision by March 1st.
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    Message 6 of 8 (288105)
    02-18-2006 1:42 PM     		Reply to: Message 2 by AdminOmni
    02-17-2006 9:39 AM

    Re: Flesh it out a bit?
    I've edited the post to give a bit more meat to the question. Is that enough?
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    The true mystery of the world is the visible, not the invisible
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    02-18-2006 1:47 PM     		Reply to: Message 3 by Adminnemooseus
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    Re: I fear that some admin might promote a PNT with a really crappy topic title
    Done.
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    Message 8 of 8 (288120)
    02-18-2006 2:12 PM

    Thread copied to the Who's afraid of a godless universe? thread in the Faith and Belief forum, this copy of the thread has been closed.
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