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Author Topic:   When were angels created?
David unfamous
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Message 1 of 24 (27884)
12-26-2002 7:54 AM


And for what purpose?
Obviously a God doesn't need helpers. So... Angels - when, why and what?

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David unfamous
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Message 6 of 24 (27990)
12-27-2002 5:01 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by forgiven
12-26-2002 8:14 PM


when? before time
How do you know this?
why? ultimately, to praise God
If a God needs praise, then he must feel incomplete, therefore imperfect. Surely a God wouldn't create something just to be praised?
...but also to make man's salvation sure thru the diverse interactions between angel and man.
Salvation from what? Why would they be created before time if no man existed at that point to need salvation?

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David unfamous
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Message 15 of 24 (28107)
12-30-2002 9:47 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by funkmasterfreaky
12-30-2002 7:59 AM


For one they aren't just an army, also messangers.
Armies are for protection and conquering, what God needs protection or needs to conquer? And what omnipresent being needs messengers?
Who said he NEEDED an army to defeat his foes?
To create an army is proof enough of necessity. Proof of insecurity at least.
There is only one God and only because he loves us does he keep evil from completely destroying us.
How about not creating evil in the first place?
He is more powerful than you think.
I see no power whatsoever, so it wouldn't take much.
God is not trying to boss anyone around, you would like him to I think.
Just some proof he exists would be nice.
If God was bossing people around you could have all the evidence to his existance you wanted.
Bring it on. Surely that's what the religious would love, it would shut-up all us pesky atheists.

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David unfamous
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Message 16 of 24 (28108)
12-30-2002 9:48 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by funkmasterfreaky
12-30-2002 7:59 AM


For one they aren't just an army, also messangers.
Armies are for protection and conquering, what God needs protection or needs to conquer? And what omnipresent being needs messengers?
Who said he NEEDED an army to defeat his foes?
To create an army is proof enough of necessity. Proof of insecurity at least.
There is only one God and only because he loves us does he keep evil from completely destroying us.
How about not creating evil in the first place?
He is more powerful than you think.
I see no power whatsoever, so it wouldn't take much.
God is not trying to boss anyone around, you would like him to I think.
Just some proof he exists would be nice.
If God was bossing people around you could have all the evidence to his existance you wanted.
Bring it on. Surely that's what the religious would love, it would shut-up all us pesky atheists.

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David unfamous
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Message 20 of 24 (28281)
01-02-2003 8:17 AM
Reply to: Message 19 by Mr. Davies
12-31-2002 1:36 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Davies:
You mean just like in Genisis when God complains that Man and Woman had eaten the forbidden fruit He bemoans "They have become like US". Like US? Who is God talking to?

You'll never get an answer to that one. It gets quietly brushed under the carpet.

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