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Author Topic:   All in the Family - Guest star: Neanderthal
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Message 68 of 96 (278169)
01-11-2006 1:39 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by Nuggin
01-11-2006 1:27 PM


Re: It's not the Neanderthals I'm worried about...
Nuggin, depicting modern man as typically 6'2" is way off the mark. I don't know what the average height is now, but in the 70s, it's far less than 6', and more like 5'7", something like that. Gotta remember that some Oriental nations have far less height and yet great numbers.
So an accurate depiction would show Cro-Magnon significantly taller than modern man, and would cut all the extraneous stuff like one having a beard and another not. That stuff creates a false appearance of some anatomical evolution taking place which has not basically occurred for the most part, except people are smaller than they once were, and even that is changing some now back the other way due to nutrition.

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Message 69 of 96 (278170)
01-11-2006 1:40 PM
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01-11-2006 1:35 PM


Re: Back to my earlier question
Nuggins, I think evos ought to consider Neanderthals and Cro-magnons and modern people all the same species.
Because evos look at things differently, I don't think they are going to call Homo Erectus the same species, but I have no problem with that, or perhaps species is not the best term.

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Message 70 of 96 (278171)
01-11-2006 1:43 PM
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01-11-2006 1:27 PM


Re: It's not the Neanderthals I'm worried about...
On Neanderthals, my understanding is Neanderthals had larger brains and a side view limits some aspects as well. The arms seem longer and larger on all 3, but maybe not.
The basic problem is we could find 3 people today, line them up, dress them funny, one shaven and another not, and create a similar line-up.

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Message 79 of 96 (278336)
01-11-2006 11:30 PM
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01-11-2006 5:08 PM


Re: link
They are comparing figures from samples of modern populations, not the human population from that era, as one of the scientists quoted states, and thus the assertion that such genetic studies indicate 2 species is flawed, at least according to the scientists in the links provided.

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