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Topic: Hi everyone I'm Jacob, new to this forum.
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Jman
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Message 1 of 12 (276277)
01-06-2006 3:05 AM
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May I introduce myself with the following? "I want to know God's thoughts. The rest are details." A. Einstein When I speak of God, I do so from outside of any religious context because, after all, I do not wish to exclude anyone or to sugggest that any particular group is "preferred" over another. To do so would be both unkind and unnecessary. I believe that all religions are equal. I believe their purposes are to enlighten we humans to God's universal truths, to help us on our paths, in our lives. I believe that they are structured and administered in consideration of all the differing groups, races and times of humanity. I believe that they change, mature and grow in scope in accordance with God's plan and with His blessings. Many have run their courses and faded, yielding to newer and greater realities, and newer "forms" in religion. I will try to suggest explanations for postulations such as the one given below and hopefully we will discover some as yet unknown (to me at least) truths. There are many profound differences between Earth and "Heaven". One of the greatest of these is the idea of "opposition". Here on Earth we live in constant struggle. Caught between "forces" of one kind or another and their counterparts, we try to keep our equalibribium and poise. Conflicts abound pulling us from all directions and few of us find agreeable, the pronouncements of others. But we all are kindred souls, and God is the Father. What I would like to do on this website is to explore issues which are important to us all from within the "setting" of this introductory statement. I will suggest discussions of ideas based upon the postings of others found herein. I hope this effort will be welcome. My motivation is simply that I want to continue to learn. I also will use what I learn in a study paper, maybe a book but if the project gets that far I promise to post it on my own site for everyone's comments before I release it. Thank You, and some comments would be nice... Jacob
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mark24
Member (Idle past 5195 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: 12-01-2001
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Message 2 of 12 (276293)
01-06-2006 6:52 AM
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Reply to: Message 1 by Jman 01-06-2006 3:05 AM
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Hi Jacob, Welcome to EvC!
I believe that all religions are equal. I believe their purposes are to enlighten we humans to God's universal truths, to help us on our paths, in our lives. How can this be when all religions contrdict each other? Mark
There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't
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riVeRraT
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: 05-09-2004
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Message 3 of 12 (276298)
01-06-2006 7:54 AM
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Reply to: Message 1 by Jman 01-06-2006 3:05 AM
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Hi, and welcome to the forums.
I believe their purposes are to enlighten we humans to God's universal truths,
What is God's universal truth?
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Yaro
Member (Idle past 6496 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: 07-12-2003
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Message 4 of 12 (276320)
01-06-2006 9:17 AM
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Reply to: Message 1 by Jman 01-06-2006 3:05 AM
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I believe their purposes are to enlighten we humans to God's universal truths, to help us on our paths, in our lives. I believe that they are structured and administered in consideration of all the differing groups, races and times of humanity. I believe that they change, mature and grow in scope in accordance with God's plan and with His blessings. How does this account for the vast, chaotic, impersonal, hostile, universe that streactches out for billions of lightyears beyond our planet? Why would god make all that stuff just for us? What about all the animals that have gone extinct over millions of years before giving rise to humanity? What's up with that? Finally, what about ALL the senseless suffering, desease, and other misery that people go thrugh every day? How does that gel with the idea of a divinely ordained path? Seems go belief is inherantly arrogant. It assumes we are at the center of purpouse.
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SuperNintendo Chalmers
Member (Idle past 5834 days) Posts: 772 From: Bartlett, IL, USA Joined: 12-27-2005
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Message 5 of 12 (276406)
01-06-2006 1:24 PM
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Reply to: Message 2 by mark24 01-06-2006 6:52 AM
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What if they do?
How can this be when all religions contrdict each other? Hey mark, I'm an atheist... but to play devil's advocate who says all religions can't be true? They may all seem contradictory to us, but god(s) is supposedly beyond our understanding. Truth may have a different meaning for that entity(s).... Yes, I realize this is just philosophical musing (and really has no relevance to the observed world) but it seems an interesting question. Cheers
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AdminJar
Inactive Member
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Message 6 of 12 (276412)
01-06-2006 1:31 PM
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Getting way Off Topic Folk
This is a simple welcome thread, not one for debate.
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mark24
Member (Idle past 5195 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: 12-01-2001
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Re: What if they do?
Off Topic Folk. Please do not respond to this message. Thanks. Mini,
I'm an atheist... but to play devil's advocate who says all religions can't be true? They may all seem contradictory to us, but god(s) is supposedly beyond our understanding. For example, Jesus is either the messiah or he isn't. Judaism says he isn't, Christianity says he is. Both propositions can't be true. Mark This message has been edited by AdminJar, 01-06-2006 12:43 PM
There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't
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Admin
Director Posts: 12998 From: EvC Forum Joined: 06-14-2002 Member Rating: 2.3
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Message 8 of 12 (276420)
01-06-2006 1:51 PM
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Reply to: Message 1 by Jman 01-06-2006 3:05 AM
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Welcome, Jacob! If you'd like to propose a new topic, at EvC Forum this is done at the [forum=-25] forum. Once approved by a moderator, it is released to the appropriate forum.
-- | Percy | | EvC Forum Director |
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mark24
Member (Idle past 5195 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: 12-01-2001
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Message 9 of 12 (276423)
01-06-2006 1:59 PM
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Reply to: Message 8 by Admin 01-06-2006 1:51 PM
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Hi Jar, In this case I beg to differ re post 7. My reply to mini was on topic, & was merely a continuation of Jacob's idea that all religion was somehow compatible. Mark This message has been edited by mark24, 01-06-2006 02:04 PM
There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't
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SuperNintendo Chalmers
Member (Idle past 5834 days) Posts: 772 From: Bartlett, IL, USA Joined: 12-27-2005
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Message 10 of 12 (276424)
01-06-2006 1:59 PM
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Reply to: Message 6 by AdminJar 01-06-2006 1:31 PM
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Re: Getting way Off Topic Folk
Sorry Jar, That was actually quite rude of me. Welcome Jacob!
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Admin
Director Posts: 12998 From: EvC Forum Joined: 06-14-2002 Member Rating: 2.3
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Message 11 of 12 (276426)
01-06-2006 2:03 PM
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Reply to: Message 9 by mark24 01-06-2006 1:59 PM
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Okay, I'll let Jar know next time I see him.
-- | Percy | | EvC Forum Director |
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mark24
Member (Idle past 5195 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: 12-01-2001
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Message 12 of 12 (276428)
01-06-2006 2:05 PM
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Reply to: Message 11 by Admin 01-06-2006 2:03 PM
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Sorry, my mistake
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