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ramoss
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Message 112 of 164 (270621)
12-18-2005 8:32 PM


The rumor has it that the Judge Jones will be giving his decision on Tuesday or Wednesday of next week.
Considering the transcripts, and the obvious lies of certain of the now ex-board members, I think the decision will be a slam dunk one.

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Message 116 of 164 (270738)
12-19-2005 11:12 AM
Reply to: Message 114 by Jazzns
12-19-2005 12:04 AM


The rumor was reported at Page not found | National Center for Science Education
There wasn't an 'offical announcement' there.. that is why I call it 'rumor'.

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Message 117 of 164 (270931)
12-19-2005 7:38 PM
Reply to: Message 116 by ramoss
12-19-2005 11:12 AM


From the above link above
quote:
just received this email update from the U.S. Federal Court, Middle District of Pennsylvania:
From: Kitzmiller_Update@pamd.uscourts.gov
To: undisclosed-recipients@null, null@null
Subject: Kitzmiller Decision Expected 12/20/05
Date: Dec 19, 2005 8:20 AM
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Judge Jones is expected to file his Opinion in the Kitzmiller v. Dover case at some point tomorrow [Tuesday, December 20, 2005].
As soon as the opinion is filed and posted to the web site, a notification will be sent with a link to the opinion. Anticipate heavy volume on the web site, so please be patient if the opinion is slow to load in your web browser.
Thank you.
There will likely be a press conference held in Harrisburg on Tuesday. However, we have received no word on whether or not the opinion will be released early or late in the day. Contact the press ACLU’s press person for this case (Tracy Zimmerman, tracyATPublicInterestPR.com) for the latest.

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Message 118 of 164 (271088)
12-20-2005 11:16 AM
Reply to: Message 117 by ramoss
12-19-2005 7:38 PM


The decision is in. The Judge ruled against the defendants, and also took the broader approch, and said the I.D> is NOT science, but it religion
quote:
The much-awaited decision in the Kitzmiller et al. v. Dover Area School District is now available.
The 139 page document finds for the plaintiffs.
Judge Jones finds that “intelligent design” is not science. The DASD ID policy violates both purpose and effect prongs of the Lemon test, and also violates the Pennsylvania constitution.
by Administrator @ 8:55 am. Filed under News
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Message 137 of 164 (271388)
12-21-2005 11:47 AM
Reply to: Message 130 by Trixie
12-20-2005 4:39 PM


Re: Key excerpts from the opinion...
What I find is so neatly ironic about Judge Jones is that he was apponted by George W Bush.

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Message 138 of 164 (271389)
12-21-2005 11:49 AM
Reply to: Message 131 by MisterOpus1
12-20-2005 9:05 PM


Since the school board was basically replaced at the last election, with all 8 of the school board memembers who voted FOR I.D. defeated, the chances of appeal are non-existant. The 9th person who voted for the I.D. to be taught was not up for election.

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Message 150 of 164 (275721)
01-04-2006 10:53 AM
Reply to: Message 148 by crashfrog
01-02-2006 10:13 PM


You know that. I know that. However, the followers of I.D. don't know that.
They dont' WANT to know that.

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