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Author Topic:   Philosophical ramblings on the Adam & Eve Parable
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Message 23 of 80 (268814)
12-13-2005 1:31 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Parasomnium
12-13-2005 9:33 AM


Re: Theology questions for Carico
beautiful.

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Message 60 of 80 (270714)
12-19-2005 10:26 AM
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10-22-2005 2:54 PM


Re: The A&E Parable in a nutshell
why would he have created something similar to him except that he was lonely? he was so lonely, he was talking to himself. very bad sign. do you think he had a wolsin?

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Message 61 of 80 (270716)
12-19-2005 10:29 AM
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10-24-2005 2:30 PM


the reason for the fall story
no. clearly the text says that this story gives a why to work, childbirth pains, and fear of snakes. it has little to do with perfection. that's a greek standard, not a hebrew one.

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Message 62 of 80 (270718)
12-19-2005 10:31 AM
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10-24-2005 8:16 PM


Re: Free will not free will if you get slammed for making a choice.
i like that definition, but i don't have that much confidence in paul. clearly he thought we were inherently evil.... especially women. so much so that marriage is to be avoided unless you can't resist sex because being close to another person instead of being close to god is to be reviled.
i hate that guy.

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Message 63 of 80 (270722)
12-19-2005 10:40 AM
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12-17-2005 12:35 PM


Re: A New Start.
genesis was not written by your average contemporary male chauvanist. it describes adam as very stupid. one, he fails to make his own decisions. god made his covenant regarding the trees with adam, not with eve. notice their eyes weren't opened until after adam ate the fruit. but further, after he's caught and accused he starts blaming others. he's a dolt and a wimp. but he doesn't blame the woman. read it closely.
And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest [to be] with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.
he's blaming god for putting her there as though she was made to make him fall. what a putz.

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Message 67 of 80 (270940)
12-19-2005 8:10 PM
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12-19-2005 12:19 PM


he did. read further. he blames it on god for giving him the woman.

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Message 68 of 80 (270941)
12-19-2005 8:11 PM
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12-19-2005 12:24 PM


Re: Free will not free will if you get slammed for making a choice.
as far as i'm concerned, paul has very little worth reading. it goes beyond his gender issues to where he flat out contradicts christ. whatever happened to peter and why does paul run our church?

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Message 69 of 80 (270942)
12-19-2005 8:15 PM
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12-19-2005 12:28 PM


Re: Free will not free will if you get slammed for making a choice.
yes, he talks about a great number of women and their contributions to ministry. but clearly it's disgraceful for them to speak in church. (this isn't new. it was anathema for a woman to sing in the jewish temple. her voice was 'enchanting' and would cause men to fall.)
if women cannot assist others by their own walks with the lord, then they are not equal or valued.

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