Moving towards an ID mechanism.

Don't have time to post much today, but it's not that QM is esoteric. It's the specific qualities of QM that parallel identical or similar ideas in spiritual traditions.

We don't have sufficient technology to prove, disprove or even test anything that has to do with ID and/or QM. That doesn't mean that those theories are wrong.We've always had gravity, electromagnatic fields, electricity, etc. only recently have we acquitred means of proving them.

Refreshing, to say the least.Ray

Just because your conception of QM and your conception of spirtuality shows there are simularities doesn't mean they are actually related.Are you taking it on faith? If so, then this is not science. If it is science, then how can this relationship be tested and possibly falsified?

Just because we don't have the technology at the moment doesn't mean the theories can not make predictions. We have the technology , and the concepts to be able to test much of QM (just not a qm/spiritual realm interface).There were items that the theory of relativity predicted that we had to develop the technology to be able to test. That did not mean that relativity did not make those predictions.QM has made a number of predictions. Many of those predictions have been confirm on many different tests.The ekuropic universe model makes a prediction that is different than the standard inflationary bb theory. We don't currently have the techology to do the test, but it is possible to do those tests.ID does not make any predictions. It does not have any explanitory power. The mechanism that Randyman is proposing doesn't seem to be
have a testable mechanism. (I will be waiting to hear his propsosal though).It might not be wrong, but until we have a method where it can be demonstrated, tested, and possiby falsified, it isn't science yet.

As cavediver has already said, there is no one truly satisfying QM book.
In my opinion the two best are "Landau and Lifshitz: Quantum Mechanics" and "Shankar: Principles of Quantum Mechanics".
Landau and Lifshitz is great, because it is one of the few books a newcomer can actually understand and Shankar because of how he explains Hilbert Space and the Dirac notation.This message has been edited by Son Goku, 12-18-2005 03:16 PM