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Author Topic:   Ten-sai, Evidence, Law, & Science.
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Message 24 of 50 (25249)
12-02-2002 10:38 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by Ten-sai
11-29-2002 7:36 AM


Hi Ten-sai, welcome aboard! Hope you're enjoying life here at EvC Forum.
Activity level is high for the number of moderators we have, and it sometimes takes us a while to catch up with events. We try to enforce the Forum Guidelines, and there's a rule 3 regarding treating your fellow EvC Forum members with respect and remaining dispassionate in discussion. Naturally we want to encourage a fun and spirited interplay, but we also want to stay focused on the issues, something that becomes difficult when the debate becomes personalized. I'm sure you understand.
Glad you've joined our happy crew!
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Message 29 of 50 (25307)
12-02-2002 6:47 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by Ten-sai
12-02-2002 4:54 PM


Hi Ten-sai!
Please accept a 24-hour suspension of posting privileges.
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Message 30 of 50 (25311)
12-02-2002 7:26 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by Ten-sai
12-02-2002 4:54 PM


ten-sai writes:
Although I understand your frustration with being unable to control people, you must likewise understand that's the tradeoff when you allow anonymous internet surfers to publish anything-they-want on "your"(really?) website without consideration.
It's not really "my" website. I only pay the bills and write the code. EvC Forum is run for all site members on both sides of the Creation/Evolution issue. Any view is permitted, the only requirement is to follow the guidelines.
PS. But thanks for the tip. My question for you: are there any creationist Admins here? You know, the ones that believe God created life and everything around us? 'Cause mesmells a bias . . .
One thing on my long list of things to do is to add a list of the admins in a few visible places. There are currently three admins: 2 evolutionist and 1 Creationist, and I'm currently looking for another Creationist admin to balance things out:
[b]Admin ID[b]Member ID[b]POV
AdminPercipientEvolutionist
Adminnemooseus   minnemooseus   Evolutionist
AdminaquilityTranquility Base   Creationist
The last person to receive a suspension of posting privileges here was nos482, an evolutionist.
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Message 32 of 50 (25376)
12-03-2002 6:49 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by Ten-sai
12-02-2002 4:54 PM


Hi Ten-sai!
Your posting privileges have been restored. Enjoy!
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Message 38 of 50 (26254)
12-10-2002 10:53 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by Ten-sai
12-10-2002 9:36 PM


Hi Ten-sai!
Your wish is granted. You are permanently banned.
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Message 50 of 50 (26400)
12-12-2002 8:29 AM


Sorry to be a wet blanket about this. Ten-sai is also a contributor to other boards, and perhaps you can pick up the thread of the discussion there.
As Ten-sai noted, his was not the only violation of the guidelines, but we're people here, not robots, and everyone is granted the privilege of contributing their own personal flair to their posts. Moderating a thread is not a matter of just blindly following guidelines, but often requires walking a line, and one question I usually ask myself is whether someone's posts are contributing more heat than light. In Ten-sai's case he challenged everything and offered little if anything in the way of information. Even on topics where he would supposedly be an expert, such as the legal definition of evidence, he refused to offer any information. His posts were extended arguments based upon personal incredulity and ridicule, and there was no indication this would change.
All heat and no light made it easy to decide his guideline violations needed attention. Indicating to me that he would not abide by any moderator requests made banning him equally easy.
If Ten-sai indicates to me via email at Evc Forum Administrator that he is now willing to follow the guidelines and abide by moderator requests then I'd be glad to allow him back in. Even if he finds the guidelines too constraining, he could always say whatever he likes in the Free For All forum.
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