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Buzsaw
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Message 277 of 302 (256167)
11-02-2005 9:17 AM
Reply to: Message 273 by Silent H
11-02-2005 4:56 AM


Re: Bashing Robertson
Holmes writes:
So I want to get this straight... you do believe that dna tech is a capable tool for discerning branches of animal speciation?
Off topic: as I've told you before, don't expect to be able to draw me off with you. It's keeping me busy enough to address all the on topic stuff in my busy schedule.
Holmes writes:
Also, you said Israel would be without walls, but as is well known, they have walls. Not to mention that humans seeking to fulfill prophecy is different than actually doing such a thing. It is a simulation and meaningless.
I see you're getting desperate also, Holmes. We all know that what walls remain are nothing but useless archives and the most grown/expanded way beyond the ancient walls.
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The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw

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Buzsaw
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Message 282 of 302 (256192)
11-02-2005 10:30 AM
Reply to: Message 278 by PaulK
11-02-2005 9:37 AM


Re: Bashing Robertson
Whatever. It appears nobody's budging here, so we might as well move on.
In my morning reading today I was reading Psalms 83 and though this Psalms may not be a prophetic Psalm perse, it's sure relevant to what we are observing in and around the new Israel of today, involving the same old enemies of Isreal, the Ishmaelites, et al. Again, , imo, the significance of this is just more corroborating evidence for my argument about the OP of this thread. There's plenty of evidence, but few care to accept it, for it is damning to their secularistic ideologies and mindsets.
The relatively puny arrogant little human creatures of this speck of a planet in the cosmos, defiantly and arrogantly wag their heads, claiming to be the ultimate intelligent beings of all the universe, pshawing any notion that there could be other intelliget beings of far greater intelligence and energy, the head and greatest of all, being the designer and manager of it as some significant evidence appears to indicate.
Psalms 83:2-8 writes:
For lo, your enemies make a tumult;
And they that hate you have lifted up the head.
They take crafty counsel against your people,
And consult together against your hidden ones.
They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation;
That the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance. For they have consulted together with one consent; Against you do they make a covenant;

The tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites;
Moab, and the Hagarenes; Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; Philistia with the inhabitanmts of Tyre; Assyria also is joined with them; They have helped the children of Lot.

The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw

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Buzsaw
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Message 286 of 302 (256222)
11-02-2005 11:07 AM
Reply to: Message 279 by Asgara
11-02-2005 9:56 AM


Re: Bashing Robertson
Asgara writes:
Buz, I've asked you before. Please give me a "LINK" to your NOAA data so I can verify it for myself.
My sincere apologies, madear. I had intended to enter it and forgot. I've edited it in. here it is, as well.
http://www.webpennys.com/hurricane_frequency_study/
Asgara writes:
Read the stats on landfall major hurricanes since 1948, for example. Nearly all of them since 1900 were after 1948
Your list is not from the NOAA's The Most Intense Hurricanes in the United States 1900-2000...
It is not from the NOAA's The Thirty Deadlist Mainland US Tropical Cyclones 1900 - 2000 ...
Nor is it from the NOAA's Costliest U.S. Hurricanes 1900-2000
Buz, I am NOT saying you are definately wrong, I haven't seen where you are getting your information from. I AM saying that you haven't shown anything yet.
It is none of the above. It's the major landfall ones since 1900 and updated to include 1905 by the website publishing it, since it had not included the ones of the last few years.
This message has been edited by AdminJar, 11-02-2005 10:11 AM

The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw

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Buzsaw
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Message 289 of 302 (256230)
11-02-2005 11:22 AM
Reply to: Message 287 by PaulK
11-02-2005 11:07 AM


Re: Bashing Robertson
PaulK writes:
I think that Buz's idea of carefully reading the Bible is carefully NOT reading any bit of it that might say something that Buz doesn't like.
I've read it intensely, carefully and regularly daily for 60 years since I became a Biblical fundamentalist Christian at age 10, honeing in on the prophecies when these things way back began to come into focus and Israel became a nation, watching them along with world events through the decades. There was no Israel on the map until I was a teenager. I've also observed the incidence of natural disasters in person as their frequency has relatively steadily increased. How about you, PaulK? Aparantly, from your apparant lack of understanding and insight on Biblical fundamentals, you've a lot of homework to do before considering yourself an authority on the subject at hand.

The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw

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Buzsaw
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Message 291 of 302 (256238)
11-02-2005 11:32 AM
Reply to: Message 288 by jar
11-02-2005 11:15 AM


Re: To the heart of the matter
Jar, me deluded friend, your obvious hatred and disdain for good patriotic American Christians like Falwell and Dobson, who've done so much good and helped so many, including the poor and destitute does nothing but make you look bad. When are you going to get off this meanspirited hateful bashing of good people and learn to be nice as we discuss things here. It would make the place a much more pleasant place to discuss and debate the issues.

The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw

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Buzsaw
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Message 292 of 302 (256239)
11-02-2005 11:34 AM
Reply to: Message 290 by jar
11-02-2005 11:24 AM


Re: Bashing Robertson
Reread thoughtfully, prayerfully and objectively!

The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw

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Buzsaw
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Message 294 of 302 (256244)
11-02-2005 11:40 AM
Reply to: Message 284 by NosyNed
11-02-2005 10:50 AM


Re: Greater beings?
NosyNed writes:
Other than those who think the creator of the entire universe takes us as being special and "in His image" I don't think anyone was claiming any such thing. Those of us with a real interest in the real universe are very interested in the notion that there might be others equal or greater than we.
But apparantly not interested enough to allow discussion of possible evidence on it as a scientific hypothetical or even theoretical possibility without being suspended or banned from science forums, and apparantly not interested enough in it to allow discussion in the schools of education.

The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw

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Buzsaw
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Message 295 of 302 (256246)
11-02-2005 11:48 AM
Reply to: Message 293 by PaulK
11-02-2005 11:36 AM


Re: Bashing Robertson
PaulK writes:
If you had actually read ALL these verses there is no way you could have missed the references to the lost tribes of Israel.
Why not? Read carefully who's doing the regathering the scattered ones from the nations.
Gotta run. My business being on hold with much to do and this nice day passing quickly here in upstate NY. Have a good one and will talk again, Lord willing.

The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw

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Buzsaw
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Message 299 of 302 (256352)
11-02-2005 7:34 PM
Reply to: Message 298 by Asgara
11-02-2005 5:30 PM


Re: Bashing Robertson
Asgara writes:
Buz, thank you for providing the link.
Your NOAA list is by no means definitive, and it doesn't claim to be. It claims to be A list of major storms...not the list of ALL major storms. You can look at my links to NOAA's most intense, most deadly, and most costly storms and you have many storms missing from your list that are on various ones of mine.
It's major landfall ones, which are the ones relative to the op of this thead, i.e. natural disasters They need to make landfall to do the disastrous damage in most cases. That so many are making landfall seems to indicate that things are changing quite rapidly meterologically.
Asgara writes:
Your site is discussing US hurricanes and at least three on their list did NOT make US landfall, Iris falling WELL short.
The three are on the NOAA list, aren't they?
Asgara writes:
Once again hun, not saying you are definately wrong, but you have YET to show us anything.
I repeat: I've still shown that the frequency of all natural disasters of all kinds together has been on the rise in recent decades, according to a number of websites. Also, even if you discount your three hurricanes from the NOAA list, you still have a significant increase in natural disasters from them.
Asgara writes:
Meteorologists DO expect the storms to increase in number...
Max Mayfield, director of the National Hurricane Center in Miami, told a Senate subcommittee on Tuesday that we're in a period of heightened hurricane activity that could last another decade or two.
"The increased activity since 1995 is due to natural fluctuations (and) cycles of hurricane activity driven by the Atlantic Ocean itself along with the atmosphere above it and not enhanced substantially by global warming," he testified.
Yes, and I've already stated that to be the case, so for you to say I've shown nothing is just not right.

The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw

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