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TrueCreation Inactive Member |
For those who care to comment on Buddika or My content, please post them in here, this would be appreciated. Thanks
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edge Member (Idle past 1737 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined: |
quote: Rubbish. There is no way to tell if the soil is of that age. According to TC himself, the soil on this site could have been washed away two days earlier and then redeveloped by the dawn of the Cambrian. All we can really say is that the development of this soil was interrupted by the superdeposition of the Lamotte Sand. Just as Buddika will find, TC cannot comprehend this simple fact and will repeat his misunderstanding indefinitely.
quote: Heh, heh, heh....
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John Inactive Member |
quote: I've been thinking about this ice cap issue, and wish to propose a solution. Lets assume, first, that the ice caps pre-flood contained enough water to cover the earth. God, obviously, would have created them adequately for His purposes. Now, with not much thought it is apparent that these ice caps would have been enormous. Large enough, in fact, to deform the planet into something of a pancake shape. Here, we see evidence in scripture that such was the case. The world is, after all, described as something of a disk. We do have the problem however, that this scenario puts mesopotamia on the edge of the pancake so to speak. This, I believe, can be rectified with scripture by noting that the earth is also described as a circle-- obviously a reference to the extreme curvature of the earth in the regions of mesopotamia. At the appropriate moment, God caused millions of meteors to impact the earth, melting the ice sheets. Most hit the sheets directly but a few hit other regions, for what divine purpose it is not known. He also choose to mark the moon with craters as a testament to these great events. These massive ice caps melted catastrophically and the waters flowed over the earth. Such an event would so radically shift the gravitation center of the earth and weight distribution that the planet would flex into its now nearly global shape. However, before settling into a permanent state one would expect it to churn and wiggle like a water drop in zero-G. This intense geological activity is the source of our extant mountain ranges. Also note that this occilation would have been intense enough to through much of the water, once held in the ice caps, right off the planet. This flung-off water, perhaps being captured by Jupiter, thereby forming the moon of Europa. A further problem is also solved. This ejected water would carry away most of the heat generted by the meteor impacts. I believe this to be an acceptable solution. Thank you all for joining me here today. ------------------
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Brian Member (Idle past 4990 days) Posts: 4659 From: Scotland Joined: |
quote: LOL Maybe you should copyright this before Kent Hovind plagarises it for his next 'lecture'. Brian. ------------------Remembering events that never happened is a dangerous thing!
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John Inactive Member |
quote: I think maybe I'll publish and go on a lecture tour myself. Do creationist have groupies? I wonder..... ------------------
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Brian Member (Idle past 4990 days) Posts: 4659 From: Scotland Joined: |
quote: Yes they have groupies, however they all look like Gretchen Passantino! ------------------Remembering events that never happened is a dangerous thing!
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Randy Member (Idle past 6278 days) Posts: 420 From: Cincinnati OH USA Joined: |
John,
You forgot something important from your post. You left out the following essential statement.
If this message has been a blessing to you please send a donation Otherwise its great just don't forget the most important part again!Randy
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John Inactive Member |
quote: arrrrgggggghhhhh...... how right you are!!! ------------------
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TrueCreation Inactive Member |
"Rubbish. There is no way to tell if the soil is of that age. According to TC himself, the soil on this site could have been washed away two days earlier and then redeveloped by the dawn of the Cambrian. All we can really say is that the development of this soil was interrupted by the superdeposition of the Lamotte Sand. Just as Buddika will find, TC cannot comprehend this simple fact and will repeat his misunderstanding indefinitely."
--Possibly, thought the answer would be easily indicative, given some characteristics. Your hypothesis is no more tenable than mine with what information we have. You will have to show me that characteristics of the Cambrian sediments directly underlying the paleosol indicate erosion to a degree that would satisfy your hypothesis. --It is possible to date paleosols, it is just difficult. --I won't diliberatelly repeat this misunderstanding as I have stated it. It will, however, continue to be support that I may interpret it as a highly likely pre-flood soil, given its geologic position. ------------------ [This message has been edited by TrueCreation, 11-30-2002]
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edge Member (Idle past 1737 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined: |
quote: Hunh? You said before the Cambrian sediments overlay the soil... Which is it? And, yes I will guarantee that the materials under the soil are an erosional surface.
quote: Yes and I have shown you one.
quote: You cannot however, support the assertion that it is a 1 billion year old soil... If you ever took the time to study geology you would understand this.
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edge Member (Idle past 1737 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined: |
I really shouldn't pick on TC. But it's just too tempting:
quote: What a howler, TC. You're killing me! Did you notice that there are marine sedimentary rocks being deposited on continental crust today? So, where is the flood?
quote: Buddika, I'm not sure that this is good advice. Look where it got TC! I'm afraid you will go backwards in stead of forward
quote: Oh, sure That's convenient! Let's forget about all of the mountains, especially the ones that show different ages of formation.
quote: So, TC, which Cambrian organisms did mammals speciate from? Remember you have only a couple of thousand years to do this.
quote: Really?! In second grade! I have to apologize to you. I didn't realize that you were that advanced. No wonder I can't understand a thing you say
quote: Well, there's a reason for that. But I don’t think you want to hear it. But the 16-year old part, yeah, I believe that!
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edge Member (Idle past 1737 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined: |
quote: Wrong. There are plenty of locations and times where sedimentation was not occurring. Therefor, according to your analysis, the flood is falsified. Thank you TC.
quote: Can you elaborate on this? It would seem that your rebuttal here is very poor. You should have come up with some facts. Actually, B is correct on this.
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Quetzal Member (Idle past 5903 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
I want to post my vote for the best single-line quip in any Flood discussion on any board I've ever seen: "Your credibility is already at benthic levels with this flood story."
*applause* We now return you to your regularly scheduled program.
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TrueCreation Inactive Member |
"What a howler, TC. You're killing me! Did you notice that there are marine sedimentary rocks being deposited on continental crust today? So, where is the flood?"
--Like I said, it is evidence for the flood, though does nothing to say that it adds up to or say that the flood did happen. "Buddika, I'm not sure that this is good advice. Look where it got TC! I'm afraid you will go backwards in stead of forward"--I said what I said because he is trying to say that a big celestial bucket of 'muddy sediments' were thrown on the earth so that there could be some degree or another of granulometric distribution throughout the whole of the geo column, this logic of his is ridiculous. He wont release his grip on his bath tub strawman. "Oh, sure That's convenient! Let's forget about all of the mountains, especially the ones that show different ages of formation."--Elaborate? "So, TC, which Cambrian organisms did mammals speciate from? Remember you have only a couple of thousand years to do this."--None, Mammals speciated from those whose burials were higher in the geologic column, I believe that would be the Triassic+. "Really?! In second grade! I have to apologize to you. I didn't realize that you were that advanced. No wonder I can't understand a thing you say"--What isn't understandable about what I said here? It was a comment made in considering the post as a whole regards to his assertions about sedimentation. "Well, there's a reason for that. But I don’t think you want to hear it. But the 16-year old part, yeah, I believe that!"--The reason for that is because he's not making me do any research and I don't think he's made one assertion which would have me say that I've 'learned something' from it. Besides my doosie on the Arctic ice caps, but even then.. --Post #12-->"Wrong. There are plenty of locations and times where sedimentation was not occurring. Therefor, according to your analysis, the flood is falsified. Thank you TC." --I don't remember me saying anything about sedimentation being a constant. "Can you elaborate on this? It would seem that your rebuttal here is very poor. You should have come up with some facts. Actually, B is correct on this."--Should I assume you are reading his posts? I would be extremely surprised if anyone were to think it evident he has read any hard geologic text. All it seems he's read is every anti-creationist article known to human kind. He knows little of his terminology and how various geologic processes are carried out, only that he's heard that the effects do not show a global flood. How should he expect that I should take his word for it when this is all he's done. ------------------
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TrueCreation Inactive Member |
"Hunh? You said before the Cambrian sediments overlay the soil... Which is it? And, yes I will guarantee that the materials under the soil are an erosional surface."
--Oops. I would also, a pedogenic erosional feature. I mean to say as the Cambrian above the paleosol, rather than "underlying". Sorry about that. "Yes and I have shown you one. "--Where at? And if you have, why is it impossible to know its age? "You cannot however, support the assertion that it is a 1 billion year old soil... If you ever took the time to study geology you would understand this."--Sounds like you have the data which says that it isn't? I'd like to see it, since you have so much confidence that this is 'yet another' opportunity to show that I don't know anything about my geology right? You seem to enjoy attempting this at times. --No mater the age of the paleosol whether it be 1Ga, or 700Mya, my suggestion as it being a preflood soil isn't very hindered. ------------------
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