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Author Topic:   God's chosen and predestination.
Glordag2
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Message 16 of 18 (230989)
08-08-2005 12:36 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by randman
08-08-2005 12:19 PM


Re: that's not the answer
I'm having a bit of trouble with the "all in all" thing. I'm not really sure what that even means. What does it mean to "fill all in all?" The only thing I can figure it to mean is that we are here to preserve his will in its entirety, whatever that might be. In that case, I'm not exactly sure how that supports a timeline. Maybe if I had the verse in its original context or something that would better help me to understand it?

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randman 
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Message 17 of 18 (232854)
08-13-2005 12:19 AM
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08-08-2005 12:36 PM


Re: that's not the answer
"All" I think means exactly that, everything.
The "all in all" is everything in everything, absolute unity with God inside and out, for the entire creation. It's a much more glorious inheritance than we realize.

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hoaryhead 
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Message 18 of 18 (237055)
08-25-2005 8:51 PM


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Iano:
"Only decide from analysis of 'Creation' whether or not a Creator exists."
This statement is totally false. Hundreds of millions of people have been the "Elect" who never studied the 'Creation.'
"No one can come to Me (Jesus) unless the Father who sent me draws him" - John 6.44.
"Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God" - Rom 10.17.
And, it is taught that the word of God comes by witnesses; such as the apostles, and myself.
"Man has not the means within himself to know if God exists or not. God has to be the one to show he exists" - Iano.
This is semi-false. The "Elect" are not human beings; we are a spiritual "creation" (2Cor 5.17).
"For by grace you have been saved through faith ..." - Eph 2.8.
We are "born out of water and of Spirit" (Jn 3.5); meaning that we receive the Spirit of God in our minds through prayer, after we had been cleansed from sin.
Then -- you know that God exists!
He is in your mind!
And we solve the riddles of the Bible that are impossible for mere man to know, but are revealed to the "Elect."
By the proper interpretation of prophecy, the children of God have always known the future; and have been known to be children of God.
No Atheist has ever predicted the future correctly.
hoaryhead

  
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