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How do Christians deal with the violence in the Bible?

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crashfrog
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07-30-2005 11:10 AM 		Reply to: Message 1 by Rahvin
07-28-2005 7:10 PM

How do they deal with it?
As you can see by just reading Faith's posts, they just ignore it.
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07-30-2005 11:17 AM 		Reply to: Message 5 by Faith
07-30-2005 11:13 AM

Re: How do they deal with it?
Blaming the victims doesn't really strike me as a healthy or honest way to deal with things. You've simply handwaved the violence, and the commands to violence, by implying that they no longer apply without actually developing any scriptural basis to support that.
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And a number of Christian leaders completely disagree with you. They're absolutely certain that the conditions of America today so closely match the situation of ancient Israel that those commands are still very much in force.
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crashfrog
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07-30-2005 1:12 PM 		Reply to: Message 8 by Faith
07-30-2005 11:25 AM

Re: How do they deal with it?
You simply refuse to accept God's righteous judgements on the GUILTY. We're ALL guilty, by the way, not an innocent victim among us with respect to God's law against sinners.
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Exactly. Blame the victims.
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crashfrog
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Message 42 of 221 (228055)
07-31-2005 9:01 AM 		Reply to: Message 41 by Faith
07-31-2005 7:49 AM

Re: just a question
God does NOT violate His command against killing, which correctly means murder, or the killing of an INNOCENT without cause.
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If we're all guilty sinners, as you've stated, that's a pretty meaningless commandment, wouldn't you say?
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Without the Bible's revelations of the causes, all the wars and slaughters that go on in the world all the time would still go on, but without any explanation beyond the evil propensities of humanity.
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Why is that insufficient explanation?
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crashfrog
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07-31-2005 10:43 AM 		Reply to: Message 44 by Faith
07-31-2005 10:19 AM

Re: just a question
As usual, you didn't bother to get the whole point let alone think about what I was saying.
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I don't see how guilt or innocence depends on who's accusing you. Either you're guilty, or your innocent. That has nothing to do with anybody else.
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