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Ooook!
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Message 40 of 55 (225048)
07-21-2005 5:18 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by crashfrog
07-20-2005 5:23 PM


Re: To All You Harry Potter Killjoys
It's not without reason that they're popular; they're actually good books. Ripping good yarns. Subversive fiction in the best tradition of "it'll fool you into letting your kids read it."
I agree with you, but add the qualifier "They are written for kids". If you read any of the HP series you've got to accept that you are not going to be blown away by the plot or complex interaction between characters. When I read any of the books I tend to regress to a more child-like state in my mind so I won't be disappointed (kind of like when I read the Da Vinci code) and let the 'ripping good yarns' pull me along.
Slightly OT: has anyone read the 'His Dark Materials' trilogy by Phillip Pullman - now that's subversive!

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Ooook!
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Message 49 of 55 (225631)
07-23-2005 5:46 AM
Reply to: Message 42 by Tusko
07-21-2005 5:47 AM


They're a hell of a lot more involving than Potter, as far as I can ascertain
I agree, I enjoyed Pullman's stuff more than the Potter series. I also suspect that (as I think Andya has pointed out) this is because the concepts and stories were more adult. Although I do see what Crash means about the characters, I think this is true whenever you have a book that tries to describe a 'Foreign' world in such depth - Dune, Lord of the Rings etc. But it was the uniqueness of Pullman's world that really hooked be, with things like the armoured bears and Daemons.
though maybe the Amber Spyglass wasn't the brilliant finale it could have been?
I quite liked the ending, but I won't make any other comments in case I spoil it for anyone.
I'm reading the Potters at the moment (halfway through 4) because a friend's lent them to me
Ah!
That means you've still got the over-long (and generally unispiring) Order of the Phoenix to get through. Stick with it though, I thought this last one was back to form, and very entertaining.

Si hoc signum legere potes, operis boni in rebus Latinis alacribus et fructuosis potiri potes!

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Message 52 of 55 (226021)
07-24-2005 6:47 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by Andya Primanda
07-23-2005 10:00 AM


Re: About His Dark Materials...
...I wonder if it is popular outside the UK? I mean, I only know it after I moved here. But the series has been around for some time then. Although I suspect it would've been less popular in the US, given the anti-theistic theme.
Yeah. I've wondered about that too. I'm also intrigued why more of fuss hasn't been made by some on the Christian Right who seem to be working themselves up about the evil witchcraft and satanism in JK Rowlings stuff.
Again, I don't want to leave spoliers but:
  1. Pullman makes no secret of his atheism
  2. The books are not entirely complimentary about organised religion
  3. God and the Metatron!!!!

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