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jar Member (Idle past 138 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Karl Rove in 1994.
Approaching election day and democratic voters start getting calls from pollsters asking questions like "Would you be more or less likely to vote for Anne Richards if you knew her administration is dominated by lesbians?" Or 1973 and his tactics to take over the College Republican organization (where he first came under the tutelage of George Bush Sr). The later is interesting because it revolved around the question of who leaked a document. The underlying message though is that Karl Rove, like Newt Gingrich, is concentrated on returning power to a McKinley like era. He has used just about any tactics imaginable and has always concentrated on using peoples worst traits to his advantage. Regardless of the outcome of the Wilson/Plame incident, Karl Rove is still a power to be reckoned with and has trained a whole cadre of people to follow his example even if he should be removed from the picture. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 138 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Wasn't there a Bush who held some position in the CIA?
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jar Member (Idle past 138 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
And if I understand this mess, it's about someone from a Bush Administration outing a CIA agent because her husband published an article that questioned the Bush Administration's use of Intellegence data?
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jar Member (Idle past 138 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Since you responded to me, I'd say hero. It's a shame there wasn't a 'DeepThroat' that spoke up early enough to get Reagan impeached.
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jar Member (Idle past 138 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Tal writes: No from what I got out of it, someone on the inside was disclosing the identity on an undercover agent to a reporter and the reporter was refusing to reveal the person who was giving this information I don't quite understand what your comment has to do with anything I wrote. But if Karl Rove was the person who outed the CIA agent I think at a minimum he should be charged with conspiricy to commit murder. Perhaps if he's facing a needle in the arm he will explain who gave him the go ahead. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 138 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
There are actually several issues in the Palme affair. Let's step through them.
First, someone leaked information to one or more reporters that identified a CIA agent. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 138 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Leaking the name of a CIA operative is likely to place that persons life in jeopardy.
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jar Member (Idle past 138 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Get to the part where you think Rove is involved and why? Where have I said Rove was the source? What I have said is that if Rove was the source he should be tried for conspiricy to commit murder. Do you agree with that statement? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 138 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
The time has come to ask:
In case you miss the conection, the items listed above were not not related to the Plame affair but rather to some other break-in by low level members of CREEP. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 138 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
And the Watergate break in was a minor B&E by low level folk done without the foreknowledge of the President.
If the President knew the source of the leak and covered it up, should he be impeached? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 138 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Actually, it was not the slush funds or other such activities that created the problem. The issue was "Conspiricy to coverup" the activities.
The same was true with the Clinton Administration. The issue was not the acts themselves, it was the attempt to coverup those activities. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 138 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
So is it reasonable to ask:
"What did the Prsident know and when did he know it?" Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 138 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Does it matter who released the information?
If the President knew who released the information and did not turn that information over to a prosecutorial authority, was there a coverup? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 138 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
It was Ambassador April Glaspie who gave Saddam the go ahead to invade Kuwait and then left Wilson to deal with the consequences.
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jar Member (Idle past 138 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
On what, the career of April Glaspie? If you aren't aware of her you certainly should be. Try following her postings and you'll get a tour of US troubles. LOL
Look up the available transcripts (there are several, with slight differences between them) and the US State Department has not taken a position so far on their accuracy, specifically they have not denied their general authenticity. The first was published in the Times IIRC around Fall of 1993. The conversation took place in 1990 during the period when Saddam was massing troups on the border with Kuwait. There are several key things.
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