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ksc
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Message 16 of 299 (9509)
05-11-2002 10:43 AM
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05-11-2002 1:42 AM


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joz
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Message 17 of 299 (9516)
05-11-2002 12:57 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by ksc
05-11-2002 12:17 AM


quote:
Originally posted by ksc:
Joz, the Old Testament and the new are from fiction. Many of the towns, the people, the events have been proven to be quite accurate.
Ksc Dame Barbara Cartlands books contain real places and people.....
Events proven accurate huh? Like that global flood there is no geological evidence for....

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Percy
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Message 18 of 299 (9522)
05-11-2002 4:26 PM
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05-11-2002 10:43 AM


ksc writes:

The concept of Scientific Creation theorizes that the earth is young, or around six (6) to ten (10) thousand years old. This theory is based upon empirical evidences collected...
What evidences? All the evidence indicates an ancient earth and universe, and there is an absence of evidence for a world-wide flood. You should talk to wmscott (his thread is Solving the Mystery of the Biblical Flood), who's written a book claiming the world-wide flood happened, but that it was so brief as to leave virtually no evidence, including no geological evidence.
--Percy

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TrueCreation
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Message 19 of 299 (9538)
05-12-2002 12:04 AM
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05-11-2002 4:26 PM


"What evidences? All the evidence indicates an ancient earth and universe, and there is an absence of evidence for a world-wide flood. You should talk to wmscott (his thread is Solving the Mystery of the Biblical Flood), who's written a book claiming the world-wide flood happened, but that it was so brief as to leave virtually no evidence, including no geological evidence."
--All evidence indicates an ancient earth and universe - While the universe has pretty conclusive evidence for its ancient history through cosmology (according to my understanding), I would disagree with saying that the earth's 'ancient' history is as ancient as you say. As well as your notion that there is no evidence of a global flood. I have seen that there are mounds of evidences for the catastrophy. However as I discover at times, there is (according to my current understanding) evidence against it, which I continue to play with and try to reach a higher understanding.
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Percy
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Message 20 of 299 (9542)
05-12-2002 2:53 AM
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05-12-2002 12:04 AM


TC writes:

I would disagree with saying that the earth's 'ancient' history is as ancient as you say. As well as your notion that there is no evidence of a global flood. I have seen that there are mounds of evidences for the catastrophy. However as I discover at times, there is (according to my current understanding) evidence against it, which I continue to play with and try to reach a higher understanding.
We're all already pretty familiar with your opinions, and I don't think it's necessary to keep repeating them unless they're accompanied by some actual supporting evidence and/or reasoned argumentation. For instance, you don't agree that there is no evidence of a global flood. That's not new news. What would be new is if you actually presented some evidence or argument.
--Percy

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Siguiendo la verdad
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Message 23 of 299 (214665)
06-06-2005 12:44 PM
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05-07-2002 2:47 AM


Why do we have a seven day week?
Why do we have a seven day week?

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Siguiendo la verdad
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Message 24 of 299 (214669)
06-06-2005 1:00 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by johndcal
05-07-2002 2:47 AM


According to NosyNed
Origin of species, origin of life and evolution are different things.
What do you think?
It would be useful if you gave the appropriate quote out of your reference but it appears to be discussing the origin of life and not evolution. I suggest you research the difference.

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Siguiendo la verdad
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Message 25 of 299 (214671)
06-06-2005 1:02 PM
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05-07-2002 2:47 AM


What fossil record?
What fossils support evolution?

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Brachinus
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Message 26 of 299 (214703)
06-06-2005 2:29 PM
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06-06-2005 1:02 PM


Re: What fossil record?
What fossils support evolution? Here's a good start:
Transitional Vertebrate Fossils FAQ

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coffee_addict
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Message 27 of 299 (214812)
06-06-2005 6:50 PM


Is there a reason why ksc deleted all his/her messages?
Off topic
but answer is (more or less) here - Adminnemooseus
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gnojek
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Message 28 of 299 (214828)
06-06-2005 7:28 PM
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06-06-2005 12:44 PM


Re: Why do we have a seven day week?
I dunno, why is everyone on the planet now going by the Christian calendar? Even Muslims? Ask a Chinese or a Jew what year it is.
2005 A.D. they'll say.

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zephyr
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Message 29 of 299 (214866)
06-06-2005 9:50 PM
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06-06-2005 7:28 PM


Re: Why do we have a seven day week?
Wow, from one tangent to another. And in a three-year-old thread, no less. The seven-day week (which ultimately stems from ancient astrology and the Pleiades) and the Gregorian calendar (which probably failed to correctly guess the birth year of Jesus, if he had one) are both inventions of man, just like all the alternatives. The more globalized business and politics get, the harder it is to function without agreeing on one system of date-keeping. As it happens, Western society has largely had its ways adopted by those who seek to trade with it, and other cultures have profited from the efficiency gained in doing so. However, there are plenty of groups who live just fine without caring what "day of the week" it is, or how many years it has been since somebody else's messiah was born. But I'm just encouraging more tangents. So, either we can let this one die, or we can talk about the opening post and what facts support or refute it.

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Cthulhu
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Message 30 of 299 (215092)
06-07-2005 4:48 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by Siguiendo la verdad
06-06-2005 1:02 PM


Re: What fossil record?
"Dave"
Archaeopteryx
Beipaiosaurus
Rahonavis
Microraptor
Shuvuuia
Dilong
Cryptovolans
Omnivoropteryx
Protarchaeopteryx
Caudipteryx
Falcarius
Sinornithosaurus
Sinosauropteryx
Unenlagia
And that's just from one branch, and off the top of my head.
I also see you use the Gish Gallop.

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Cthulhu
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Message 31 of 299 (215093)
06-07-2005 4:49 PM
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06-06-2005 1:02 PM


Re: What fossil record?
Damn double posts.
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Chiroptera
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Message 32 of 299 (215103)
06-07-2005 5:11 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by Cthulhu
06-07-2005 4:48 PM


Re: What fossil record?
And some of the best transitional fossils are found in the human family tree.

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