Noah's Ark

mental gymnastic are fun! can i play? check the book again. it says THE DAYS (plural) of methusalah's life were 969, not the years. so either either he died at age two and a half or so, or he lived close to 100,000 years. well, no, he said adam and eve would die the same day. actually, he doesn't really specify which day, he just says "when." "in the day that..." refers to an arbitrary future time, much like the word "when" does in english. the newer jps printing. also, if you knew any hebrew, it would confirm what i just said above. idioms don't always translate literally very well.

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language can be a real problem. can you imaging trying to explain some of the goofy stuff we say in modern english to ancient hebrews? beat me to it.

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If that is so, then the Bible is contradictory. The Bible clearly states that God repented at the Flood, but the hebrew verb is different in this repent (its moer like regret) than the one in Malachi and Numbers. I say again, God knows the plans he has for us - plans for good and not bad. By the way, that part of the phrase was no the object of debate. Brian, I meant to say that God doesn't lie. It's not in his nature !!!
Besides, he "changes not", there "is no variableness nor shadow of turning" with him. You don't know God unless you know the truth
(And "if it's new, It probably ain't true.")This may be a debate forum, but agreements would help...

...People who think they have all the answers* usually don't understand the questions.I've got a better one for you to enjoy...
..."We're all gonna die in the morning!"*And I'm not defending people like that because I'm pne - I'm not.

Off topic (but that's where you can usually find me):My signature is intended to be a dig at self-styled "fundamentalists" who think they can pull answers out of their (ahem) just because they've had an "experience" with God.I don't know why you call that pessimistic.

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People who think they have all the answers usually don't understand the questions.

ANd just how long does it usually take for them to pull these self-gratifying answers out of their (ahem!) for us to dwell on?I agree totally with you, but that signature still wont beat the saying that still holds true:"We're all gonna die in the morning!"

Well, Faith (the person) can do it in the twinkling of an eye. Ray Martinez has to go through several pages of insults first. Morning has come, and I'm still here.(But soft! The Topic Police approach!)

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People who think they have all the answers usually don't understand the questions.

uh, same thing, really. that's what "repent" means.the issue is really more like "god should not have to apologize to men." it's about having their priorities backwards. god's in charge, not us. it doesn't mean that god doesn't sometimes regret his actions. i think.either way, just messing with you here.

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Are you entirely sure? I mean, God regretted his choice to create an antidiluvian world, but do you really believe that remorse, regret, and repentance are the same thing? It's just like saying that Sin, Iniquity, and Transgression are the same thing, when in reality, Sin is missing the mark, Transgression is accidentally missing the mark though trying to hit it, and Iniquity is purposely missing it because you wanted to. Go check the Hebrew contexts of the words. Besides... Nice to hear you say that.
LOL! JUst wanted to mess with you!

This is the topic police. I repeat, this is the topic police. Let's save the discussion for court (another forum thread).
JK
You're a man - or woman - after my own heart.Not saying I'm god...
...what am I saying?
Oh, You get it anyway, right?

In my humble opinion (without consulting a dictionary):-remorse means feeling bad about something you did
-regret means wishing you hadn't done it
-repentence means you stop doing it.Repentence is like super-extra-double regret. God not only regretted what He had done, He went so far as to undo it.My original point was intended to be: in one place the Bible says God doesn't repent and in another place it says He did - so it isn't wise to base your ideas on one verse.

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People who think they have all the answers usually don't understand the questions.

I saw a special on TV (take it for what it is worth)
But in it they were calculating if the animals could indeed fit in the ark. According to them they did, with a big space left over. They later realized that the space was big enough to fit all the dinosaurs as well.It was a Christian show, not a science show.They also constructed models of a modern oil tanker, and on of the ark, to the same scale, then put them through "storms" in a test tank. The tanker sunk, and the ark would not sink. They figured the only way the ark would sink is if it flipped end over end.I don't know if I believe all that, but it was interesting. I had always wondered if the great flood killed all the dinosaurs, and that layer of sediment (iridium) found all around the world is the evidence of the flood.The only thing for sure is that we just don't know yet.

Didn't they just die a spiritual death?
That is why when you are born your spirit is dead, and Jesus says you must be born again to enter into heaven.

That anecdote you shared with us in your first post was interesting, and yet the second post was a little odd. I'm not entirely sure that that's the explanation for the death of Adam & Eve spiritually.

They seem to have forgotten the possibility it would break its back. There's been discussion about that here within the last six months or so, but I can't be bothered to track it down.

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