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Tal Member (Idle past 5705 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
Well here's the evolutionists answer to the human population curve.
250 million in 0 A.D.
Solid data...can't argue with that.
1 billion in 1804,2 billion in 1927 (123 years later) 3 billion in 1960 (33 years) 4 billion in 1974 (13 years) 5 billion in 1987 (12 years) 6 billion in 1999 (12 years) Oh look, it appears that the population curve levels out a tad after year 0....but suddenly its 10,000-50,000 bc! And you can find almost endless other graphs. Funny how they can all stop around 5K years ago...or go on to infinity in the reverse direction depending on how you look at it. Good stuff. I may not agree with what you say, But I will die defending your right to say it. No webpage found at provided URL: www.1st-vets.us
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MangyTiger Member (Idle past 6381 days) Posts: 989 From: Leicester, UK Joined: |
So are you saying you posted two pieces of information which contradict each other without any explanation ? The way I read your original post was that you were either suggesting or assuming that the figures you quoted from the overpopulation site supported the figures used by Creation Evidences Museum (CEM).
If so I'm missing what the point of your two quoted boxes was ? Actually though, none of that matters. Do you dispute the figures shown on the link I provided ? Unless you can show something wrong in those figures it pretty much nails the quote from CEM as worthless (since it produces nonsensical values for intermediate points in history). P.S. I'll be away from the PC for an hour or two. Oops! Wrong Planet
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Alasdair Member (Idle past 5777 days) Posts: 143 Joined: |
quote: quote: Good stuff indeed I'll research some bacterial reproduction rates for you later. This message has been edited by Alasdair, May-24-2005 01:52 PM This message has been edited by Alasdair, May-24-2005 01:53 PM
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
The data you are quoting shows that the population only increased by a factor of 4 between 0 AD and 1804 AD. Then it quadrupled again in a mere 170 years. That in itself illustrates that simplistic extrapolation isn't evidence.
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coffee_addict Member (Idle past 505 days) Posts: 3645 From: Indianapolis, IN Joined: |
What's your point?
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Brian Member (Idle past 4987 days) Posts: 4659 From: Scotland Joined: |
You really haven't thought this one through have you?
Brian.
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Tal Member (Idle past 5705 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
It's not evidence that humans have been around only 6000 years. It's just selective use of data to make an invalid extrapolation. I suppose if we used a period where the population growth was negative you'd accept that as evidence we didn't exist ? Plug those numbers in on a standard graph where the population numbers represent X and the timeline represents Y. It would seem quite obvious where X and Y would originate. I may not agree with what you say, But I will die defending your right to say it. No webpage found at provided URL: www.1st-vets.us
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Tal Member (Idle past 5705 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
What is the worldwide growth rate of houseflies in a year?
This message has been edited by Tal, 05-25-2005 09:17 AM I may not agree with what you say, But I will die defending your right to say it. No webpage found at provided URL: www.1st-vets.us
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
What do you mean by a "standard graph" ? What sort of curve does it use and how do you justify the choice of curve ?
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Jazzns Member (Idle past 3939 days) Posts: 2657 From: A Better America Joined: |
Lets not let Tal slip the issue of the scant number of people his model proposes existed to fullfil all of the stories in the Bible. So far this has been ignored.
I find it just amazing that Creation Scientists will actually propose a statistically fragile argument to try to justify something that just so happens to go directly against Biblical literalism. What is more important, the age of the earth which is not mentioned in the Bible or all the stories in the Bible that require a reasonably established human population? Pick one. FOX has a pretty good system they have cooked up. 10 mil people watch the show on the network, FOX. Then 5 mil, different people, tune into FOX News to get outraged by it. I just hope that those good, God fearing people at FOX continue to battle those morally bankrupt people at FOX. -- Lewis Black, The Daily Show
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Jazzns writes:
Right now, in another topic, they are discussing whether or not there could have been 2 million Israelites in Egypt at the time of the Exodus. By Tal's scenario, there would only have been about a thousand people in the whole world at that time. Lets not let Tal slip the issue of the scant number of people his model proposes existed to fullfil all of the stories in the Bible. People who think they have all the answers usually don't understand the questions.
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Alasdair Member (Idle past 5777 days) Posts: 143 Joined: |
quote: Exactly.
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Tal Member (Idle past 5705 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote:-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What is the worldwide growth rate of houseflies in a year? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Exactly.
We have the worldwide growth rate of humans in a year. We don't for the housflies. I may not agree with what you say, But I will die defending your right to say it. No webpage found at provided URL: www.1st-vets.us
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined: |
It would seem quite obvious where X and Y would originate. You seem to have missed the point of a couple of previous posts. No one is arguing with the origin point. The numbers were cooked to come up with that value. The curves given predict a starting point for this population curve and predict the current population today. They were set up to do so. However, the point is that they also predict a bunch of intermediate population figures. You have been given some. And your comment on those intermediate figures is...?
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d_yankee Inactive Member |
Yes it can be accurate as the book of Genesis states that when God "first" created the earth it was "formless and void".
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