No need for grunt work? *Societal Roles*

i would argue that you have no idea what heavy lifting is if you think that four year olds and a few gallons of water are the heaviest things in the world. another product of today's lazy society.further. four year olds should not be carried unless injured or asleep. they can walk.

yet another example of agriculture ruining everything lol. men get bored and start playing politics. it's like when we played house as little kids.

if you are weak enough to be oppressed by someone else's religion...mind your manners and respect the beliefs of the dead. if you don't hold them, fine. but people -who are just as important as you- did. when you dishonour another, you dishonour yourself.iu swear. someday all those crazy feminists are gonna put all the religious people in chains along with the men.

most people i know can't walk 20 km per day. i imagine that if four year olds have to walk 20 km per day then they will. just like adults.

how's this. i don't argue that nazis are the single worst thing to ever walk the planet unlike everyone else. i do not curse every nazi who ever walked as a demon and whatnot.and everyone knows that i ascribe to quite a romanticized everything. call me an ideologue. and what is so groundless about considering that other people make up their minds about things for a reason and not simply because they aren't as intelligent as you? oh come off it. i'm just saying that all these crazy broads are screaming about how awful hierarchy is when all they intend is to reverse it and put themselves on top. it's hypocrisy and it makes me nauseated.

yes i did read it and i've read quite a bit on matriarchal, matrilineal and matrilocal societies. i love your assumptions. guess what. not everyone who reads the same things as you jumps to the same conclusions you do.i don't care how "not opressive" matriarchal societies are, it's still leadership by one sex. it's still a hierarchy, and it's still hypocritical and wrong.i don't have to prove that feminists want to institute a matriarchal society, you said it yourself.and frankly, i think abandoning a man and leaving him without a home is pretty opressive. and that's beside the fact that i don't think sexual freedom for anyone (as you describe it) is a good thing. but then i'm probably the only non fundie who thinks that.matrilocal only means that the family lives where the mother's family lives... even the hebrews started out matrilocal. matrilocal doesn't have anything to do with this.tons of american indian tribes are matrilocal. congratulations.moreover, i'd argue that your discussion of the evils of patriarchal societies are exaggerated. while i really don't feel like bothering to find it, i'm sure there are examples of patriarchal societies which are even less opressive than your dear little pet nations of matriarchs.oh yes. and these crazy broads? i don't afford them any respect because they're all alive. except, i'm sure, there were some killed at kent state or some other protest and maybe some who did too much drugs during the late sixties and early seventies. you know. just like everyone else.i'm tired of your self-righteous condemnation of everyone who doesn't agree with you. i hate everyone. you only hate people who call you on your hypocrisy.

if nothing else, i'm talking about contracycle. he seems to advocate them.

yeah i'm sure. he just really pisses me off.

look. all i said was that claiming that women are the ones that have always done the heavy lifting was a stupid remark. and then you went off on me. leave me alone i don't care to prove to you the fact that i find your ideas to be wrong because i'm simply not interested in discussing it anymore ever. i've investigated it before and i didn't think it was a correct interpretation of the truth. i don't have to prove to you my thought process or how much i read or anything. i'm not debating the ideology, i'm debating the fact that you make claims and then double back on them.

kinda like youhave a nice dayThis message has been edited by brennakimi, 05-06-2005 06:55 AM