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Author Topic:   SIMPLE Astronomical Evidence Supports the Bible
doctrbill
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Message 151 of 197 (201622)
04-23-2005 11:00 PM
Reply to: Message 147 by ptolemy
04-23-2005 10:12 PM


Re: Teach us who God is
Average Venus Today
disappears behind sun 50 days
appears as morning and evening star 263 days
disappears at close approach - average 8 days ===> Total synodic 584 days
Cuneiform tablets show Venus over 21 year period
disappearance on far side of sun longer - 65 and 90 days
evening and morning appearances shorter 240 / 241 days
Disappearance at close approach 7 days ==> Total synodic cycle 584 days
Did it ever occur to you that the old astrologer didn't own a decent pair of sunglasses?
Try it yourself. Watch Venus until you think it has disappeared into the sun and then compare your results with those on the clay tablet. And then, check the official figures and see how far off you are.
You are such an extremist! On the one hand you need bare-eyeball, Bronze Age observations to support your 'theory' of astronomy; and on the other hand: you need an Earth Orbiting Telescope to support your view of the Bronze Age Bible. Great range. Too bad it is so far off target.
This suggests that the solar system was much smaller in historical times.
OR ... It shows that the ancients didn't have sunglasses, or telescopes, or accurate clocks, or automatic calculators, or Columbian coffee, or toilet paper ... (I digress).
db

Theology is the science of Dominion.
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doctrbill
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Message 153 of 197 (201629)
04-23-2005 11:17 PM
Reply to: Message 150 by ptolemy
04-23-2005 10:47 PM


Invisible Proof
ptolemy writes:
Another invisible thing invented to protect our first principle!
You say "our" as if you own it too.
Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't your 'first principle' require the existence of an invisible guy? And if that is not enough, this invisible guy has a son. And if that isn't enough there is also a 'Ghost.' Three invisible guys. And if that isn't enough there are millions, yeah billions of invisible angels and demons all of whom are required to support and protect your first principle. Invisible things invented to assert a 'theory' which cannot be proven.
Sound familiar?
db

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doctrbill
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Message 154 of 197 (201630)
04-23-2005 11:20 PM
Reply to: Message 152 by Eta_Carinae
04-23-2005 11:14 PM


Re: Venusian orbit change?
I smell a Velikhovsky in the air.
It's been a long time since I read him, but I too was wondering whether Immauel had read that same cuneiform tablet.
db

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doctrbill
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Message 188 of 197 (202882)
04-27-2005 12:04 AM
Reply to: Message 183 by ptolemy
04-26-2005 12:43 PM


Re: The Invisible, Undetectable, Superman.
ptolemy writes:
... our mathematical laws can’t explain a spiral galaxy without inventing invisible, undetectable things.
This assertion has been rebutted to good effect but you seem unable to comprehend your error. Repeating the assertion does not strengthen its appeal.
At any rate, it is clear that your own philosophy cannot explain much of anything without invoking deity (an invisible, undetectable thing). Why would you do that?
It is easier to believe in invisible things ...
Is that why you believe? Because it is easier? That's foolishness isn't it?
Of course it is foolishness.
Of course it is.

Theology is the science of Dominion.
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