No. Jar I will not, not without action on contracylces part first. I suggest you look into the issue a little further to see that this complaint is justified. As far as I am concerned contracycles behavior has proven that he is a liar in at least one specific instance. Bear with me while I show you.
see
Message 113:
I also note you still have yet to post your actual quotes of my posts demonstrating that your claims were valid representations of my position -- as you were challenged to do, and as you agreed (not that you haven't broken agreements before ... ).
until you do so you are in violation of the board guidelines, but this won't be the first time for that either.
contracycle msg 88 writes:
Your challenge is accepted
see
Message 92 for clarification of the terms you (supposedly) have agreed to on this matter. continuing to avoid the issue is also a violation of board guidelines.
If you continue to avoid the issue then I will feel justified in calling you a liar, because either you (1) back up your claim with facts or (2) acknowledge that you were mistaken or (3) intend to deceive.
And just to make sure we are talking about the same meaning of the same word:
lie n.
1. A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood.
2. Something meant to deceive or give a wrong impression.
You've already had 4 whole days on this, and you said it would be easy.
Notice that contracycle has been asked to substantiate a claim and has failed to do so, in spite of even initially agreeing to do so.
Notice too that he was put on notice that failure to comply with the challenge to substantiate his claim and failure to admit misrepresenting my position would be taken
de facto as evidence of intent to deceive.
Thus I have been dealing with the argument, contracycle has not, and continues to evade the issue and pretend his position is true: he clearly shows that his intent is for his misrepresentations of my positions to stand, and misrepresentation with intent to deceive is lying.
This is the pattern of his posts. He did it on the other thread that you closed down, and he is doing it here.
Notice that he said
Message 88:
LOL. Your challenge is accepted, becuase I already succesfully posted them once. But it will have to wait for another post.
This is another misrepresentation, which if deliberate with intent to deceive would be another lie. I cannot demonstrate that intent on this item
But his continuing refusal to even attempt to substantiate his misrepresentations of my positions means that he intends for their false message to continue as if it were true. It isn't. Intent plus falsehood = lie.
Here is the post where he was challenged to back up his claims
Message 86
Note that to substantiate his claim all contracycle needs to do is quote one post where he can show I actually said what he claims I said. If his claim were true it truly would be easy to prove. If his claim is a misrepresentation then he cannot substantiate it, and then if he does not withdraw his claim, he intends to continue to misrepresent my positions.
Contracycle needs to either substantiate his claim or withdraw it. An honest person would either post the evidence or apologize.
Admin should require that he do so.
Contracycle is in violation of the following forum guidelines:
2 Debate in good faith by addressing rebuttals through the introduction of additional evidence or by enlarging upon the argument. Do not merely keep repeating the same points without further elaboration.
4 Make your points by providing supporting evidence and/or argument. Avoid bare assertions. Because it is often not possible to tell which points will prove controversial, it is acceptable to wait until a point is challenged before supporting it.
7 Avoid any form of misrepresentation.
In spite of being asked to comply.
Given all that, if he substantiates his claim then I will withdraw my statement. It is that simple.
You can give me a time-out, or you can give me justice.
Take the path you feel needs to be taken.
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