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Author Topic:   The Nature of Scientific Inquiry; Is Evolution Science?
Faith 
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Message 61 of 86 (198301)
04-11-2005 12:27 PM
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04-11-2005 12:13 PM


Re: OK Faith, so how about it?
It is not a trivial discovery.
I'd rather it weren't for your sake.
If the ordering of the fossils were proof of macroevolution it would have been proof in the strata already, but it remains only a plausible hypothesis. All the cladograms add to this is refinement of the definition of the morphological characters in the order, but otherwise the same situation pertains: you can't prove evolution by the ordering of the fossils no matter how refined.
But I'm sure I've already stated this about as well as I'm able for now so we'll leave it here.

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Faith 
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Message 64 of 86 (198321)
04-11-2005 1:47 PM
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04-11-2005 12:58 PM


Re: OK Faith, so how about it?
Some of this is just semantic, Mark. So OK you prefer "evidence of macroevolution" to "proof of macroevolution" and that's probably more accurate, but I still read this evidence as not evidence of macroevolution at all but circular reasoning or even tautology that confirms only what it already assumes.
Faith.

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Faith 
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Message 81 of 86 (198671)
04-12-2005 2:22 PM
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Re: OK Faith, so how about it?
Thanks for the trust, Percy, I much appreciate it, but having read through Ptolemy's exchange with you I'm afraid I can't make much sense out of it, not even enough to venture to help him sort it out at this point.

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Faith 
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Message 83 of 86 (199132)
04-14-2005 2:00 AM
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04-12-2005 2:29 PM


Re: OK Faith, so how about it?
Um, how did I get to be "Moderator" and what does it mean?

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