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Author Topic:   Creationists don't believe in creationism?
Aximili23
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Message 1 of 5 (197683)
04-08-2005 12:53 PM


I have a theory that deep deep down, though they don't want to admit it to themselves, practically all creationists do not completely believe in creationism.
My reasoning is as follows: No creationist, to my knowledge, has given an example of any evidence that, if found, would falsify a young earth or a global flood, in spite of being asked repeatedly. But of course there are all sorts of possible observations that would refute these theories. If creationists really, truly believed in these things, then they would readily respond to the challenge by offering a statement of potential falsifiability, in the certain knowledge that the falsifying evidence has not and would never be found. Their reluctance to do so reveals that deep down, they know that their ideas would not stand up to scrutiny.
The falsifying evidence for my theory is a different, convincing reason for creationists not to give a statement of potential falsifiability for creationism.
It sounds ridiculous, I know, that a group of people so reliant on faith would turn out to lack it. But I really don't see any major flaw in my logic. What do you guys think?

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04-09-2005 11:19 AM
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04-08-2005 12:53 PM


I think that as written it can only degenerate into a flame war.
To help get this promoted can you reword it to a series of specific questions that could be answered instead of a general opinion piece?

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Message 3 of 5 (198033)
04-10-2005 7:52 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Aximili23
04-08-2005 12:53 PM


As a Believer in God and the supernatural "warfare" behind the scenes, I also acknowledge science. I know deep down that Answers In Genesis is out of their league. I never have cared much for HOW God did it. Nor, do I believe, is He concerned with how it is done, EXCEPT in regards to humanity growing up.
Like jar said, give us a topic.
It sounds ridiculous, I know, that a group of people so reliant on faith would turn out to lack it.
I have plenty of faith in God. I don't have much faith in my own ability to articulate empirical evidence or to verbalize scientific logic. I guess it all depends on ones faith in the origin of logic.
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Aximili23
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Message 4 of 5 (198039)
04-10-2005 10:54 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by AdminJar
04-09-2005 11:19 AM


Thanks, but never mind. It's just an idea I had; I can see that there are many things here at EvC that would be far more worthwhile to discuss. Sorry for the trouble.
But while I'm posting here at PNT, I'd like to say that joethemole's topic on the use of religion to control people is an interesting one; and I'd love to see a discussion on that. In fact I'd say that religion as a form of control is pretty much a truism. The discussion could be more along the lines of whether this control is justified, and whether the control that religion provides has had a good or bad effect on humanity, overall.

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AdminPhat
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Message 5 of 5 (198220)
04-11-2005 4:37 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Aximili23
04-10-2005 10:54 AM


Hit us up again when you have a good topic
OK..I'll take that to mean that you withdraw this topic.
Come on back to PNT when you have another doozy! Maybe the next one will become a thread!

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