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Author Topic:   Correlation Among Various Radiometric Ages
crashfrog
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Message 7 of 61 (194825)
03-27-2005 12:04 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by TheLiteralist
03-26-2005 2:56 AM


Of course, this implies that there is NO true correlation among radiometric data and that correlations are merely forced somehow...not necessarily on a conscious level...but rather the product of deeply ingrained and systemic circular reasoning.
How would that work, exactly? Like they wouldn't notice their hands "correcting" the calculations in the spreadsheet?

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crashfrog
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Message 13 of 61 (374179)
01-03-2007 8:31 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Casey Powell
01-03-2007 8:25 PM


Re: Bump for JesusFighter
But they are not capable of giving accurate results in dating rocks! And thats what is at issue here.
They are capable, and the correlation between different, unrelated methods proves it.
That's what you have to response to.

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crashfrog
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Message 17 of 61 (374184)
01-03-2007 8:35 PM
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01-03-2007 8:33 PM


Re: Bump for JesusFighter
Correlation? Do you realize how ambiguous that claim is?
To the contrary; the mathematical tests for correlation are quite unambiguous. They tell you exactly how unlikely the probability of achieving that degree of correlation totally at random would be.
What's your statistics background?

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crashfrog
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Message 25 of 61 (374195)
01-03-2007 8:45 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Casey Powell
01-03-2007 8:38 PM


Re: Bump for JesusFighter
You don't give a single objective standard of proof so your question is irrelevant here.
No, I did. The mathematical standards of correlative analysis are the objective standard of proof.
How wasn't that clear from my post? I couldn't possibly have been clearer.

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crashfrog
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Message 29 of 61 (374202)
01-03-2007 8:50 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Casey Powell
01-03-2007 8:46 PM


Re: Bump for JesusFighter
Thats about what your standard looks like here.
See, this is why I asked about your statistics background.
If I told you the elephant jumped through a Gauge 10 hoop, and you ask how big the hoop was, it's because you're ignorant of circus props. The size is Gauge 10, like I told you. If you don't know how big that is in feet, or whatever, you need to look up how circus props are sized. (It's a made-up example, by the way.)
Well, you're ignorant of mathematics. So when I tell you that correlation isn't ambiguous, that the standards are clearly defined, you need to open a math textbook and learn some statistics, not simply assert that I haven't said anything.
Look, try thinking a little longer before you post. And try to understand that there are things you don't know, like statistics. Asserting that correlation is arbitrary is just nonsense based on ignorance.

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crashfrog
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Message 48 of 61 (374257)
01-03-2007 10:43 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by Casey Powell
01-03-2007 8:53 PM


Re: Blinded Tests?
Face it my friend....your "dating" methods really suck.....I don't know how else to put it really.
Yes - because you don't know what you're talking about.
Thanks for making it obvious, though. Although I'm amazed that you thought you could overturn a century of geology just by saying that it "sucked." Somebody call the USGS!

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crashfrog
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Message 53 of 61 (374554)
01-04-2007 7:04 PM
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01-04-2007 3:41 PM


Re: Blinded Tests?
Just no good in dating anything accurately and directly.
But you can't explain why. And the decades of reliable dates we've gained by these techniques proves you wrong.
I mean, there you are saying the techniques don't date anything, and here we are with a big ol' pile of corroborated dates. And we're supposed to believe you over our lyin' eyes?

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