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gene90
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Message 4 of 52 (17799)
09-19-2002 8:05 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by acmhttu001_2006
09-19-2002 4:07 PM


No, non-believers usually have moral codes comparable to those of religious adherents. As for 'the meaning of life' it is highly subjective and up to each person to decide.

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gene90
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Message 46 of 52 (18664)
10-01-2002 12:33 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by nos482
09-30-2002 8:14 AM


[QUOTE][B]I say religion is bunk, all it does is divide[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE][B]Do not want to have anything to do with blind faith.[/QUOTE]
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That's too bad Anne because blind faith is what you are running on. Tell me, what proof have you there is no God?

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gene90
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Message 50 of 52 (18758)
10-01-2002 7:38 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by nos482
10-01-2002 8:48 AM


[QUOTE][B]What real proof do you have that does?[/QUOTE]
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Been through this a million times already.
[QUOTE][B]I think that she is just as wrong as you are[/QUOTE]
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That's great, we actually agree on something. I see atheists as being at about the same level as theists as far as faith goes.
[QUOTE][B]but atheists aren't the ones who are trying to impose their belief on all through the power of law.[/QUOTE]
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I'm sure there are ultraconservatives out there that would disagree with you.
[QUOTE][B](Well atheists can't since they don't have a cohesive belief system like theists do.)[/QUOTE]
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Actually atheists can do this and have done this before. Look at what happened to Albania when the commies took over. Look at China today. The fact is atheism is a religious perspective (I hesitate to call it a religion since there is no supernatural aspect) and can become a state-backed intrusion upon human rights every bit as easily as any theistic religion can.

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gene90
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Message 52 of 52 (18764)
10-01-2002 8:15 PM
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10-01-2002 8:08 PM


[QUOTE][B]The thing is that atheists care more for your right to believe freely than most theists care about their right to not believe. The only good way to do this is the keep separation of Church and State completely separate.[/QUOTE]
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I also agree here. As I mentioned there are ultraconservatives who are claiming that 'atheists' (usually the ACLU) are out to impose non-belief on everyone. However it is those conservatives that are the ones trying to breach that seperation of church and state, they are the dangerous ones.
In fact I haven't seen any signs of an atheist coup in the Democratic world, it seems to be a Communist phenomenon.
[QUOTE][B]In these cases it has more to do with getting rid of the competition for control than in any real belief[/QUOTE]
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I think state religion is always about political control.

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