Miracle

Just to add to what Ned said.Take this scenario. You are a man living in the 16th century. One night, you woke up in the middle of the night and you realize that you can't move. There appears to be something on top of you pressing down hard. You try to look and look and it looks like a dark disfigured human that is sitting on your chest. By now, you are completely awake and you are completely paralyzed. You try to scream for help but you can't even control your own breath. You are completely paralyzed.My question to you is would you consider this a supernatural experience?

Message 4 please. Thanks.

You didn't answer the question.Also, there has been zero (nada) documented case of healing of amputated limbs.To bring it up is like me saying, "let's assume that you're a moron... therefore you're a moron." (Yes, I'm a little childish.)So, answer the question. Would you consider the experience I described as supernatural or not?

So, are you saying, with absolute certainty, that any case of miraculous healing is suppressed by those involved with the investigation?If so, perhaps you could point me to some kind of evidence that would indicate such conspiracy?

1) You are avoiding the real issue.2) You have again and again given references to incredible miracles. Isn't it time you give some rea references to these miracles so we could discuss about them?3) How do you know what's unexplanable "miracles" and what's explanable-in-due-time "miracles"?Reattaching a finger might have seemed like a miracle to people 100 years ago, but now it happens all the time.You see, so far you have been very vague in what you refer to as unexplanable miracles. Please be more specific otherwise this thread is not going to go anywhere.By the way, I'd becareful calling jar ignorant if I were you. Let just say that he's being easy on you right now.

Oops, hadn't noticed this reply. Actually, I was describing a sleeping disorder called sleep paralysis. In my own country (Vietnam), we call it Ma De, roughly translated as ghost sitting on you.When you go to sleep, a part of your brain goes dormant to prevent you from acting out what dream. In other words, you literally become paralized temporarily. Sometimes, some people become conscious while their bodies are still paralized. Although chances are that the experience only takes a few minutes, the state of the mind at the time would make it seem a lot longer than that. Because the mind is fragile during sleep paralysis, hallucinations often result. Combine the hallucinations with paralysis, which causes people to feel like their chests are being pressed down by something, a dark human-like figure often result.In old day Europe, the phenomenon undoubtedly contributed to the various witch huntings. People at the time interpreted the experience as supernatural. In Asia, people are more worried about ghosts. Hence, instead of witches sitting on your chest you now have ghosts sitting on your chest.In fact, the disorder has been found to cause alien abduction experiences. Now that we live in a modern age, the dark figure turned from a witch to an alien.The point is just because you can't explain an experience or phenomenon doesn't mean you have to label it supernatural. I'm sure the witches and cats that were burned by the inquisition would agree with me.Coincidently, I tried to explain the disorder to some people I know in Vietnam and none of them believed me. Supernatural explanations seem to be more popular among the ignorants.By the way, I have the disorder. It is now more of an annoyance than a scary experience. My initial response used to be "Somebody help me!!! Ahhhh!! A ghost!!" Nowadays, my response would be something like "Goddamn it, not again. Let see how long this is going to take."

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