Smoking-Gun Evidence of Man-Monkey Kindred: Episode II... Tails

ApostateAbe presents...Smoking-Gun Evidence of Man-Monkey Kindredhttp://img.photobucket.com/...469/apostateabe/smokingcat.jpg Episode II: TailsIf humans share ancestry with other primates, then we should expect to see remnants of that common ancestry in our genes. For example, tails. According to current evolutionary theory, the ancestors of humans lost their tails about 25 million years ago, when apes (tail-less primates) diverged from monkeys (tailed primates). It takes a heckuva long time of evolutionary build-up to construct a fully-functioning limb like a monkey's tail. But it takes only a slight change in the DNA to remove it. So the question is: do you and I still have a large chunk of the genetic blueprint for a tail in our genes after 25 million years? Let's find out.Never mind. You already know the answer is yes.Not only do you have the genes for a tail. You had a tail in the first few weeks after your conception. Look at the following two embryos. As titled, the one on the left is your cat. The one on the right is you. You had the same kind of tail your cat did. The difference is that your cat kept the tail and you didn't.Shut up and listen a little longer, because this is only the beginning of the smoking-gun evidence. In a very small segment of the human population, mutations cause the genetic blueprint of the tail to be completed enough so that the embryos keep the same thing your cat keeps, and some babies are born with tails. I know that sounds whacked out, sucka, but check this: I have pictures. * Virtual Hospital, Persistence of the Tail. Pay close attention to the comparison of the tail in extended and contracted positions.
* A collection of images from VisualEvolution.com and AetherOnline.com.
* 'Reincarnation of a Hindu God' as reported by Ananova.com and the Chandigarh Newsline.Yeah, I know. Outrageous, isn't it?There are over 100 cases of human tails in medical literature. Most tails contain little more than skin and fat. But there are still plenty which contain:--> grooved muscle
--> blood vessels
--> nerves
--> fat
--> skin
--> hair
--> cartilageDr. Douglas Theobald of TalkOrigins.org even shows an x-ray of a six-year-old child's tail with three bones of the vertebral column. He cites Bar-Maor et al. 1980, and he asserts that "in this same study, the surgeons reported two other cases of an atavistic human tail, one with three tail vertebrae, one with five."Now what could young-Earth creationists possibly muster up in response to this? Young-earth creationists say:

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Cases of babies with "tails" surface occasionally. A paper in The New England Journal of Medicine in 1982 by Dr. Fred Ledley was titled "Evolution and the Human Tail."

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But these "tails" are not real tails. They don't have any bones in them and don't have a nerve cord either. Do they have anything to do with the idea that humans and monkeys may be related? Not in the slightest. They are just skin and fatty tissue, and can easily be cut off.

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--Creation TipsApostateAbe says:This argument seems to be the only young-Earth creationist line used to counter the smoking-gun evidence that human tails give us. Search all of the creationist literature addressing human tails and you will find that their criticism is directed almost exclusively against Dr. Ledley's paper, which gave only an example of a "pseudo-tail." This narrow counter-argument started with Duane Gish in 1983, and it reproduced itself all over the creationist noise network ever since, with almost no adaptation to the reality that there are plenty of examples of true human tails with more than just fatty tissue and skin. CONCLUSION:Yet another smoking gun hidden in the DNA of every cell in your body. CREDITS:--- Douglas Theobald of TalkOrigins.org
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--- ApostateAbe, atheist extraordinaireThis message has been edited by ApostateAbe, 02-05-2005 08:20 AMThis message has been edited by ApostateAbe, 02-05-2005 11:53 AM

I say, first of all, get rid of the superfluous graphics.Adminnemooseus

OK, I got rid of Batman and Joker, though I regard them as important icons of evolutionary science.

Catwoman is a goner. I spent a long time on that editing job. I'll just have to link it.This message has been edited by ApostateAbe, 02-05-2005 12:09 AM

Hey admins, my thread has been freezing up here in the "proposed" forum for too long. When is it going to see its day in the sun?

Message 1 promoted as the new topic on 2/7/05.AdminnemooseusThis message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 02-07-2005 15:26 AM

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